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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 16, 2023 19:00:44 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 17, 2023 2:28:01 GMT
Take a listen at how much CO2 our political brain trust believes resides in our atmosphere. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 17, 2023 3:13:11 GMT
Watching Elon take apart a BBC journalist.  |
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 17, 2023 3:52:02 GMT
www.livescience.com/21684-geoengineering-iron-fertilization-climate.htmlGiven that net zero is not about stopping the use of FF but to have sequesters as were in place, this article is about a pet of mine. Save the whales while your at it! They claim limited opportunity, lets see how limited, and sell sequestration slots commercially. More fish because they will catch a lot before they slide into the abyss. Take Fe out to sea and fish back home. Then build coal fired power stations for the people of Africa to see the fish they have for dinner.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 22, 2023 2:01:44 GMT
Lithium to ashes gives you net zero.
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Post by douglavers on Apr 22, 2023 11:59:07 GMT
Going to net zero would destroy Western civilisation in its existing form.
The Germans, ahead of the pack in wrecking their power grid, are in some States going to be facing household electricity costs of 50 cts US per kwh.
For many of its citizens, that is unaffordable. What it will do to their manufacturing economy is horrible.
Adding in a banking, bond debt disaster, CRE implosion, and rapidly contracting money supply makes a hard landing probable later this year.
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Post by ratty on Apr 22, 2023 12:21:51 GMT
Going to net zero would destroy Western civilisation in its existing form. The Germans, ahead of the pack in wrecking their power grid, are in some States going to be facing household electricity costs of 50 cts US per kwh. For many of its citizens, that is unaffordable. What it will do to their manufacturing economy is horrible. Adding in a banking, bond debt disaster, CRE implosion, and rapidly contracting money supply makes a hard landing probable later this year. Looking at the explosion in the number of Chinese vehicles on our roads, I think I know who will be taking up the slack when German vehicles become unaffordable. |
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Post by gridley on Apr 23, 2023 20:25:46 GMT
Going to net zero would destroy Western civilisation in its existing form. The Germans, ahead of the pack in wrecking their power grid, are in some States going to be facing household electricity costs of 50 cts US per kwh. For many of its citizens, that is unaffordable. What it will do to their manufacturing economy is horrible. Adding in a banking, bond debt disaster, CRE implosion, and rapidly contracting money supply makes a hard landing probable later this year. Looking at the explosion in the number of Chinese vehicles on our roads, I think I know who will be taking up the slack when German vehicles become unaffordable. I'm not even sure what Chinese car brands are - I don't believe I've seen any around here. |
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Post by code on Apr 23, 2023 22:23:24 GMT
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Post by ratty on Apr 23, 2023 23:48:54 GMT
Looking at the explosion in the number of Chinese vehicles on our roads, I think I know who will be taking up the slack when German vehicles become unaffordable. I'm not even sure what Chinese car brands are - I don't believe I've seen any around here. Maybe your tariffs are keeping them out or numbers down? Personally, I try to avoid ANYTHING made in China after the way they have been bullying us via trade. Is 2022 The Year Chinese Cars Come To America? |
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Post by gridley on Apr 24, 2023 11:12:51 GMT
I'm not even sure what Chinese car brands are - I don't believe I've seen any around here. Maybe your tariffs are keeping them out or numbers down? Personally, I try to avoid ANYTHING made in China after the way they have been bullying us via trade. Is 2022 The Year Chinese Cars Come To America?From the article:
"The nastiness in trade relations between China and the US may delay the entry of Chinese-made cars into the US, but it won’t stop them. The Hyundai Excel and the Yugo were crappy cars, but they were cheap and Americans couldn’t get enough of them. Chinese companies will be content to play in the low priced segment of the market — for a while. But 10 years from now, despite political bickering, Chinese cars will be as common as Toyotas and Hyundais. You can take that to the bank."
Um...the Yugo was the butt of jokes almost from the day it was introduced in the US and I don't recall ever seeing one on the street. Same with the Excel, though I do see Hyundai's here and there. "Common as Hyundais" however isn't saying "common" around here. Perhaps in blue states.
Toyotas ARE common, but putting them in the same bucket as Hyundais is a head-scratcher. Toyota holds the #1 and two of the top ten slots in Texas ( www.everquote.com/texas/buying-selling-autos/most-popular-cars/ ). The *TOP* Hyundai is #13, below multiple Hondas, Nissans, Fords, and Chevys. The same list does say nationwide the Hyundai makes the top ten, but of course nationwide Brandon supposedly won the 2020 election. Even nationwide there are two Toyotas above the top Hyundai (and two Hondas).
Saying "cars from country A made it big in the US" because US auto companies were asleep at the switch does not prove that "cars from country B WILL make it big in the US." Chinese cars will have to compete with BOTH domestic manufacture (which might at some point learn how to make good cars again) and the existing import streams (which have a much better idea what they're doing and have good lobbyists too).
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Post by ratty on Apr 24, 2023 11:22:27 GMT
From the article:
"The nastiness in trade relations between China and the US may delay the entry of Chinese-made cars into the US, but it won’t stop them. The Hyundai Excel and the Yugo were crappy cars, but they were cheap and Americans couldn’t get enough of them. Chinese companies will be content to play in the low priced segment of the market — for a while. But 10 years from now, despite political bickering, Chinese cars will be as common as Toyotas and Hyundais. You can take that to the bank." Um...the Yugo was the butt of jokes almost from the day it was introduced in the US and I don't recall ever seeing one on the street. Same with the Excel, though I do see Hyundai's here and there. "Common as Hyundais" however isn't saying "common" around here. Perhaps in blue states.
Toyotas ARE common, but putting them in the same bucket as Hyundais is a head-scratcher. Toyota holds the #1 and two of the top ten slots in Texas ( www.everquote.com/texas/buying-selling-autos/most-popular-cars/ ). The *TOP* Hyundai is #13, below multiple Hondas, Nissans, Fords, and Chevys. The same list does say nationwide the Hyundai makes the top ten, but of course nationwide Brandon supposedly won the 2020 election. Even nationwide there are two Toyotas above the top Hyundai (and two Hondas). Saying "cars from country A made it big in the US" because US auto companies were asleep at the switch does not prove that "cars from country B WILL make it big in the US." Chinese cars will have to compete with BOTH domestic manufacture (which might at some point learn how to make good cars again) and the existing import streams (which have a much better idea what they're doing and have good lobbyists too).
Ever see any of these? |
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Post by gridley on Apr 24, 2023 12:17:25 GMT
From the article:
"The nastiness in trade relations between China and the US may delay the entry of Chinese-made cars into the US, but it won’t stop them. The Hyundai Excel and the Yugo were crappy cars, but they were cheap and Americans couldn’t get enough of them. Chinese companies will be content to play in the low priced segment of the market — for a while. But 10 years from now, despite political bickering, Chinese cars will be as common as Toyotas and Hyundais. You can take that to the bank." Um...the Yugo was the butt of jokes almost from the day it was introduced in the US and I don't recall ever seeing one on the street. Same with the Excel, though I do see Hyundai's here and there. "Common as Hyundais" however isn't saying "common" around here. Perhaps in blue states.
Toyotas ARE common, but putting them in the same bucket as Hyundais is a head-scratcher. Toyota holds the #1 and two of the top ten slots in Texas ( www.everquote.com/texas/buying-selling-autos/most-popular-cars/ ). The *TOP* Hyundai is #13, below multiple Hondas, Nissans, Fords, and Chevys. The same list does say nationwide the Hyundai makes the top ten, but of course nationwide Brandon supposedly won the 2020 election. Even nationwide there are two Toyotas above the top Hyundai (and two Hondas). Saying "cars from country A made it big in the US" because US auto companies were asleep at the switch does not prove that "cars from country B WILL make it big in the US." Chinese cars will have to compete with BOTH domestic manufacture (which might at some point learn how to make good cars again) and the existing import streams (which have a much better idea what they're doing and have good lobbyists too).
Ever see any of these? Only on TV. |
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Post by birder on Apr 25, 2023 22:37:44 GMT
From the article:
"The nastiness in trade relations between China and the US may delay the entry of Chinese-made cars into the US, but it won’t stop them. The Hyundai Excel and the Yugo were crappy cars, but they were cheap and Americans couldn’t get enough of them. Chinese companies will be content to play in the low priced segment of the market — for a while. But 10 years from now, despite political bickering, Chinese cars will be as common as Toyotas and Hyundais. You can take that to the bank." Um...the Yugo was the butt of jokes almost from the day it was introduced in the US and I don't recall ever seeing one on the street. Same with the Excel, though I do see Hyundai's here and there. "Common as Hyundais" however isn't saying "common" around here. Perhaps in blue states.
Toyotas ARE common, but putting them in the same bucket as Hyundais is a head-scratcher. Toyota holds the #1 and two of the top ten slots in Texas ( www.everquote.com/texas/buying-selling-autos/most-popular-cars/ ). The *TOP* Hyundai is #13, below multiple Hondas, Nissans, Fords, and Chevys. The same list does say nationwide the Hyundai makes the top ten, but of course nationwide Brandon supposedly won the 2020 election. Even nationwide there are two Toyotas above the top Hyundai (and two Hondas). Saying "cars from country A made it big in the US" because US auto companies were asleep at the switch does not prove that "cars from country B WILL make it big in the US." Chinese cars will have to compete with BOTH domestic manufacture (which might at some point learn how to make good cars again) and the existing import streams (which have a much better idea what they're doing and have good lobbyists too).
Ever see any of these? I had about 5 Reliant Robins over the years (you could drive them on a motorbike licence) never managed to turn it over, traveled all over Europe in one, in St Tropez, southern France I felt like a celebrity with everyone turning to look at it. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 26, 2023 1:16:33 GMT
We are going back to the "real" green.  Rolling a Turk. |
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Rolling a Turk.