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Post by ratty on Aug 24, 2021 11:34:06 GMT
Sounds like my area on occasions .....
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 24, 2021 14:48:56 GMT
Sounds like my area on occasions ..... That's why God made Hills. I occupy one.
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Aug 24, 2021 15:03:39 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 24, 2021 19:35:20 GMT
Should also be of interest to California.
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 28, 2021 19:25:36 GMT
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Post by walnut on Aug 28, 2021 19:39:32 GMT
Sounds like my area on occasions ..... Yeah Australia has some really really wet spots, sugar cane and taipan country
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Post by ratty on Aug 29, 2021 0:10:00 GMT
Sounds like my area on occasions ..... Yeah Australia has some really really wet spots, sugar cane and taipan country
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Post by walnut on Aug 29, 2021 0:56:19 GMT
45 inches in one day.
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Post by acidohm on Aug 29, 2021 6:25:25 GMT
I follow this chap because he's very enthusiastic on posting about SSW and strat stuff, and knows a bit about it as he's completed a PhD in this field.
Typically, he's a warmist and I don't get involved because I don't hold it against him, most met types are AGW believers but we still need information from them.
This post he made highlights the gap between data analysis and what we experience living where we do.
Many people in the UK would feel this summer has been drab, underwhelming and not a 'classic' warm summer as we would remember.
Metoffice has released a statement that summer 2021 was amongst the warmest at 1°c above average however.
The comments to this tweet are what Simon refers to as people generally question how anyone could consider this summer warmer when our experience of it has been underwhelming.
Of course the scientists all say 'look at the data'.
I haven't analysed any data to a deep level....because I can't be bothered, hours spent trawling sites to find cloud cover, night time v day time temps etc, but maybe you see where I'm going with this? But briefly from what I've seen.
The summer has had some warm humid nights, particularly August has been cloudy, overall, there have only been perhaps 3 weeks which were classically summery.
What does it take to achieve a mean temp of 1°c above average? The average is 15.4°c but we've had fewer +30°c days and even, fewer +25°c days then any year since 2010 (except 2014), 2021 has also had the least sunshine hours since 2008, which itself was somewhat of a record low.
So max temps have been low, sunshine has been low. However we, apparently, are warmer then every summer in the 50's, 60's, 70's AND 80's with the expecting of '76.
Seriously. (Apparently...)
In a year where our garden showed little life until June, and trees were noticeably leafless weeks later then one might think they should be.
Another bit of anecdotal evidence, my boy cat in the past few hot summers would dissappear for up to a week (assume deep into the fields) and regularly stayed out at night, returning in the morning. He'd refuse to leave the house when wet or windy. This year he has been staying out overnight in the wind and rain.....because there hasn't really been hot dry nights.
So its been a summer of predominant cloud and low max temps, but 1°c warmer overall.
Scientists are seemingly perplexed when the public says 'whatever'.
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Post by ratty on Aug 29, 2021 12:03:32 GMT
What does the RCSO say?
** Random Cat Summer Oscillation
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Post by acidohm on Aug 29, 2021 12:13:54 GMT
What does the RCSO say? ** Random Cat Summer Oscillation Judging by his expression its unimpressive 😉
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 29, 2021 23:17:32 GMT
Reality looks different from the sky palaces of the great elite. Where all data are ground and blended in conformance to the favored paradigm. If something doesn't jive it must be the data. Could not possibility be the paradigm. Columbus actually sailed the ocean blue. The Met (and others) may soon observe the reef up close ... as their paradigms have fogged their view.
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Post by flearider on Aug 30, 2021 4:47:16 GMT
acid your right ..we have had a few high pressure systems over us this yr .. and around here i don't think we broke 28degc the one atm and all we are getting is 19-21 c ? should be very much higher .. and going to work in the mornings is cool verging on cold
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Post by acidohm on Aug 30, 2021 6:35:33 GMT
acid your right ..we have had a few high pressure systems over us this yr .. and around here i don't think we broke 28degc the one atm and all we are getting is 19-21 c ? should be very much higher .. and going to work in the mornings is cool verging on cold Devil is in the detail Flea, we have high pressure dominated weather right now, its blocking the Atlantic depressions hence we're dry, but, the HP is to our west and UK is stuck in the sound bound flow with air being dragged from the North. It would be chilly if it was winter! This summer has been dominated by loopy jets, its just where that loop is situated relative to your location defines your weather.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 31, 2021 19:47:19 GMT
Summer Surface Pressures over the Azores continue to decline in relation to Iceland. Hence an increasingly negative NAO. Values for July and August have never been this low in the timeseries that goes back to 1865. Might be related to the European Weather we have seen this summer. Winter patterns seem to be setting up for something potentially dramatic (conjecture on my part).
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