EV Nation

[missouriboy]

Sept 3, 2024 22:59:29 GMT ratty said:

From the Australian Financial Review ....

The carnage in the EV industry is only just getting started

Electric carmakers are awash with red ink; costs are too high, much higher than for petrol cars; shortages of critical materials pushing prices higher all the time, and consumers are increasingly nervous.

Profits at the German auto giant Mercedes plunged last Friday as sales of its slick new range of electric vehicles went into freefall.

Porsche abandoned its sales targets for battery-powered cars amid waning demand from customers. Ford is losing nearly $US50,000 ($A76,000) on every EV it sells, while Tesla’s profits dropped 45 per cent. Meanwhile, battery manufacturers such as Germany’s Varta are getting wiped out.

It has become clear that the EV industry is on the brink of collapse.

Hundreds of billions of euros, dollars and pounds have been pumped into this industry by political leaders and the subsidy junkies that surround them – and it is surely time they were held to account for the vast quantities of taxpayer cash that has been wasted.

Etc ...

The best laid plans of ...

theconversation.com/why-nissan-is-probably-the-most-serious-threat-to-tesla-out-of-the-traditional-automakers-173463

[ratty]

Sept 4, 2024 15:01:23 GMT missouriboy said:

Sept 3, 2024 22:59:29 GMT ratty said:

From the Australian Financial Review ....

The carnage in the EV industry is only just getting started

The best laid plans of ...

theconversation.com/why-nissan-is-probably-the-most-serious-threat-to-tesla-out-of-the-traditional-automakers-173463

That article is from 2021. I wonder what Nissan's plans are now?

[blustnmtn]

[ratty]

An Innovative Solution

[blustnmtn]

Sept 7, 2024 6:21:34 GMT ratty said:

An Innovative Solution

I think that makes it a hybrid.

[ratty]

Jaguar owners told to park outside due to fire risk

It is one of the most expensive vehicles in the world, and this week, Jaguar issued a warning that some of its I-Pace all-electric SUVs have a problem with the battery.
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Jaguar wants the owners to park their SUVs outside and away from buildings because the batteries could overheat and catch fire.

[douglavers]

In the UK, the government plans to ban all petrol and diesel car cales after 2030.

Bearing in mind the rapidly growing unpopularity of pure EV vehicles, I wonder how this is going to pan out.

I would not like to be a city resident with no access to garage charging facilities.

There is goung to be a large trade in stolen charging cables crossing the pavements ..............

Not to mention the small problem of insurance costs and a power grid likely to go into meltdown every evening as people plug in their cars!!

[missouriboy]

Sept 8, 2024 21:18:28 GMT douglavers said:

In the UK, the government plans to ban all petrol and diesel car cales after 2030.

Bearing in mind the rapidly growing unpopularity of pure EV vehicles, I wonder how this is going to pan out.

I would not like to be a city resident with no access to garage charging facilities.

There is goung to be a large trade in stolen charging cables crossing the pavements ..............

Not to mention the small problem of insurance costs and a power grid likely to go into meltdown every evening as people plug in their cars!!

Mandatory 220-volt morning rectal jump starts for ALL UK Politicians would solve that little choice problem. 

[ratty]

Sept 8, 2024 21:18:28 GMT douglavers said:

In the UK, the government plans to ban all petrol and diesel car cales after 2030.

Bearing in mind the rapidly growing unpopularity of pure EV vehicles, I wonder how this is going to pan out.

I would not like to be a city resident with no access to garage charging facilities.

There is goung to be a large trade in stolen charging cables crossing the pavements ..............

Not to mention the small problem of insurance costs and a power grid likely to go into meltdown every evening as people plug in their cars!!

Maybe the new UK government will be more pragmatic than blinkered Left .... but I'm not holding much hope.

[walnut]

Driving home today I could see on the big highway in the oncoming lane about a mile ahead, some black smoke, it looked like it was probably on the shoulder. Didn't know what it was but I thought there was a chance that it was a bad accident. I told Sylvia she might not want to look at this. Then we agree it's probably a grass fire, it seems like it's over to the side. And then we get there and she literally recoils and kind of screams when she sees it, it's a car and it's in a 3000 degree fire, just white hot. flame shooting up 20 ft high. And it dawns on me, that's one of those damn EVs. I assume that the people got out since it's on the shoulder, but yeah it looked like a fatality or something.

It's one thing to read about it, you really have to see it.

[ratty]

Sept 11, 2024 0:59:17 GMT walnut said:

Driving home today I could see on the big highway in the oncoming lane about a mile ahead, some black smoke, it looked like it was probably on the shoulder. Didn't know what it was but I thought there was a chance that it was a bad accident. I told Sylvia she might not want to look at this. Then we agree it's probably a grass fire, it seems like it's over to the side. And then we get there and she literally recoils and kind of screams when she sees it, it's a car and it's in a 3000 degree fire, just white hot. flame shooting up 20 ft high. And it dawns on me, that's one of those damn EVs. I assume that the people got out since it's on the shoulder, but yeah it looked like a fatality or something.

It's one thing to read about it, you really have to see it.

Spare a thought for the first responders to any kind of accident.

[walnut]

Sept 11, 2024 1:12:54 GMT ratty said:

Sept 11, 2024 0:59:17 GMT walnut said:

Driving home today I could see on the big highway in the oncoming lane about a mile ahead, some black smoke, it looked like it was probably on the shoulder. Didn't know what it was but I thought there was a chance that it was a bad accident. I told Sylvia she might not want to look at this. Then we agree it's probably a grass fire, it seems like it's over to the side. And then we get there and she literally recoils and kind of screams when she sees it, it's a car and it's in a 3000 degree fire, just white hot. flame shooting up 20 ft high. And it dawns on me, that's one of those damn EVs. I assume that the people got out since it's on the shoulder, but yeah it looked like a fatality or something.

It's one thing to read about it, you really have to see it.

Spare a thought for the first responders to any kind of accident.

There was one car parked fairly nearby with a guy looking at it,  no responders there yet.  I didn't see anybody there.  Hope no one was hurt.

[ratty]

Study: Electric Vehicle Batteries Make Cars Too Heavy to Be Stopped by Safety Guardrails

[ratty]

Another drawback with electric vehicles .....

Yes, electric vehicles are prone to igniting in flood, saltwater

"If you’re evacuating and leaving an EV, or other lithium-ion powered devices ... in your garage, you’re creating a real fire threat for your home, your communities, and first responders," Patronis said in a statement. "Move it to higher ground before it’s too late.”

On balance, it may be better to avoid EVs entirely?

[ratty]

I hope they will be supplying asbestos pants for the riders.

Australia Post: Electric Motorbikes