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[nonentropic]

is this site working

[walnut]

Jun 4, 2024 1:57:32 GMT nonentropic said:

is this site working

Seems to be?

[nonentropic]

very quiet.

[ratty]

We've solved all the world's problem ..... obviously.

[steve]

Jun 4, 2024 5:30:25 GMT ratty said:

We've solved all the world's problem ..... obviously.

Sorry, the world's only problem was solved in the local coffee shop years ago......

[ratty]

Fisker finished ...

EV maker files for bankruptcy after failing in fight against Tesla

Job cuts reportedly began in February this year, while plans to launch its Alaska pickup and smaller Pear SUV were shelved as Fisker fought to stay afloat, though the downward spiral had begun with no signs of stopping.

Within a month, Fisker failed to secure a partnership with Nissan, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) opened a probe into the carmaker due to owners reporting an inability to shift into park or gear, and the New York Stock Exchange delisted the company as its share prices fell to “abnormally low” prices.

The NHTSA later opened a probe following reports of Ocean doors failing to open and its autonomous emergency braking system activating without being needed.

During this downwards spiral, Fisker also massively slashed prices of the Ocean, though US buyers were hesitant to buy the electric SUV – no doubt deterred by concerns about a lack of after sales support if the company’s woes continued.

[ratty]

The comments are worth a look ....

Charging an electric car in 1905

[ratty]

Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 Become Latest Targets of ‘Game Boy’ Hack

Thieves can steal Hyundai and Kia EVs in mere seconds using a small device resembling a “Game Boy.”
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Technically known as an emulator, this device is essentially a collection of radio transmission hardware packed into a shell resembling Nintendo’s iconic handheld, created by someone in Europe. It has been circulating for a few years, but recent evidence suggests that Hyundai Motor Group EVs are now the primary targets.Here’s how it works: Once the car is awakened by touching the door handle, a handshake protocol initiates between the car and what would typically be the owner’s key fob. The emulator then runs a program that communicates with the car, tricking it into believing it’s a legitimate key. This is achieved through a specific algorithm that calculates the correct code, often within seconds. If the process takes longer, the thief can simply carry the device in their pocket until it vibrates, indicating it has found and stored the correct code for use.

Etc ...

[flearider]

jack my boss just paid £140k for a bmw ev ..uses a 2 fob system both must be on you to open and use the car ..yeah the thing go's like a rocket .. but also is limited to 124mph every mod con you can think of .. lose one of the fobs .. £300-800 depending on which one ..
i'll stick with my 125cc and her xc60 lol

[missouriboy]

Jul 5, 2024 1:13:47 GMT ratty said:

Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 Become Latest Targets of ‘Game Boy’ Hack

Thieves can steal Hyundai and Kia EVs in mere seconds using a small device resembling a “Game Boy.”
.....
Technically known as an emulator, this device is essentially a collection of radio transmission hardware packed into a shell resembling Nintendo’s iconic handheld, created by someone in Europe. It has been circulating for a few years, but recent evidence suggests that Hyundai Motor Group EVs are now the primary targets.Here’s how it works: Once the car is awakened by touching the door handle, a handshake protocol initiates between the car and what would typically be the owner’s key fob. The emulator then runs a program that communicates with the car, tricking it into believing it’s a legitimate key. This is achieved through a specific algorithm that calculates the correct code, often within seconds. If the process takes longer, the thief can simply carry the device in their pocket until it vibrates, indicating it has found and stored the correct code for use.

Etc ...

Certain traditions were useful.

[ratty]

Not sure if this will be a continuing trend but the Three Rs may be in play: Range, Reliability and Resale.

EV Sales Plummet by 16.4% in Germany, But Tesla Faces Even Greater Losses in the First Half

Germany, the epicenter of the European car industry transitioning to electric power, is seeing domestic buyers increasingly reject EVs. Sales of battery vehicles plummeted by an average of 16.4 percent in the first half of 2024, yet Tesla’s dismal figures make this decline seem almost positive by comparison.

Tesla’s German sales plummeted to 21,249 from January to June, a 41.6 percent decrease compared to the same period last year. Focusing on the June figures alone, sales dropped by 42.2 percent to 4,648 units, placing Tesla behind MG, which sold 5,158 units, although not all of them were EVs.

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[ratty]

Incredible?

Mercedes Makes Better Performance a $1,200 Subscription in Its EVs

[acidohm]

Tbf, who the hell needs the level of acceleration these cars offer as standard?

If you wanted an AMG version of an ICE vehicle...you'll be paying a fortune over the standard model.

This actually seems a more efficient way of offering performance to those who don't really need it anyway, probably at a cheaper price too.

C class amg $65.000
C class. $30-75.000

EQE (comparable ev saloon to c class?)

$70.000+

Maybe should compare e class but clearly mercedes EV are horrendously expensive anyway. You could be in an S class instead of a saloon ev with options.

You can easily (in the UK) save £3000/year at 20,000 Miles a year charging overnight on EV tariff at home.

Depreciation is going to be horrible with EV though also.

Incidentally, I'm close to 60,000 miles in mine, just got serviced and mot. Has cost me nothing in parts/labour...not even discs/pads as I regen brake mostly.

Battery is behaving well, I might detect a 10% drop in battery capacity? However....I don't drive it as frugally as I once did and so I think the estimated range reflects this and unless I drive to squeeze every kw/mile out of it it will lower the range estimate logically.

Overall, some of the easiest, most relaxing motoring I've ever had. 99% of my driving falls well within what I get out of a full battery tho which isn't the case for everyone.

[nonentropic]

I have been running an Audi 50TFSIe for a while now its a short range plug in hybrid.

I bought it really because I like tech and also to be able to ask people who drive a full electric in conversation that "I drive it mainly on petrol but on coal around town" then ask them if they run theirs on coal, then saying, "oh yes yours is full coal". It drives them mad they make all sorts of assertions about our grid being 70% hydro etc. which brings in the next line, "oh so yours increases rainfall when you plug in".

It stops about there, virtue signalling fools hate me.

To be fair electric is fine and hybrid is a great addition for efficiency and performance lift. If I had a choice I would get a diesel hybrid and diesel looks to be making a bit of a come back.The thermodynamic efficiency of a diesel with the low down punch of electric sounds appealing.

[missouriboy]

My BIG Nissan Frontier 4x4 still crushes the competition.  At age 11 and only 51K miles it still purrs like a juvenile.  I've thought about modifying it to emit the Rebel Yell on takeoff ... but that is still on hold.