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Post by missouriboy on Apr 16, 2023 1:39:20 GMT
Betcha that took a lot of deep thinking at NOAA .....  The very bright blood red and diminutive powder blue was a dramatic touch.  |
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Post by ratty on Apr 16, 2023 1:43:41 GMT
Betcha that took a lot of deep thinking at NOAA ..... The very bright blood red and diminutive powder blue was a dramatic touch. I have it on good authority that this is a NOAA instructional graphic:  |
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Post by code on Apr 17, 2023 18:08:23 GMT
Why America’s Founders Worried About Climate ChangeThomas Jefferson and other 18th-century Americans were concerned that deforestation and farming were disrupting the New World’s weather "Jefferson wasn’t just collecting data for data’s sake. Rather, he was trying to find evidence to support his conviction that the climate was changing in North America in the second half of the 18th century. He was convinced that “a change in our climate…is taking place very sensibly. Both heats and colds are become much more moderate within the memory even of the middle-aged. Snows are less frequent and less deep.” While “the elderly inform me the earth used to be covered with snow for about three months in every year,” Jefferson wrote, it no longer was, nor did rivers freeze as often as they used to." (proof global warming was started by white American Farmers)
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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 17, 2023 19:26:49 GMT
Why America’s Founders Worried About Climate ChangeThomas Jefferson and other 18th-century Americans were concerned that deforestation and farming were disrupting the New World’s weather "Jefferson wasn’t just collecting data for data’s sake. Rather, he was trying to find evidence to support his conviction that the climate was changing in North America in the second half of the 18th century. He was convinced that “a change in our climate…is taking place very sensibly. Both heats and colds are become much more moderate within the memory even of the middle-aged. Snows are less frequent and less deep.” While “the elderly inform me the earth used to be covered with snow for about three months in every year,” Jefferson wrote, it no longer was, nor did rivers freeze as often as they used to." (proof global warming was started by white American Farmers)
There was also a general belief that rain would follow farming. John Wesley Powell's assessment of the desert south west's limited water resources was challenged by the belief that "Rain follows the plow"!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rain_follows_the_plow#:~:text=To%20be%20more%20concise%2C%20Rain,making%20these%20regions%20more%20humid. |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 17, 2023 19:26:50 GMT
Why America’s Founders Worried About Climate ChangeThomas Jefferson and other 18th-century Americans were concerned that deforestation and farming were disrupting the New World’s weather "Jefferson wasn’t just collecting data for data’s sake. Rather, he was trying to find evidence to support his conviction that the climate was changing in North America in the second half of the 18th century. He was convinced that “a change in our climate…is taking place very sensibly. Both heats and colds are become much more moderate within the memory even of the middle-aged. Snows are less frequent and less deep.” While “the elderly inform me the earth used to be covered with snow for about three months in every year,” Jefferson wrote, it no longer was, nor did rivers freeze as often as they used to." (proof global warming was started by white American Farmers) And seemingly he was right if you look at the sunspot series. Until the Dalton Minimum ruined the pleasant climate. Those white American farmers must have stopped farming about 1800. Who woulda thought?
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 19, 2023 7:38:36 GMT
For anyone wanting a hard slog in reading. Conclusion: the climate models suck.
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Post by ratty on Apr 19, 2023 12:04:30 GMT
For anyone wanting a hard slog in reading. Conclusion: the climate models suck.
Spoiler! |
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Post by code on Apr 19, 2023 16:02:24 GMT
www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/world/vikings-greenland-rising-sea-levels-scn/index.html Now, a team of researchers from Harvard University and Pennsylvania State University say they have uncovered another key factor that could explain why the Vikings fled: a rise in sea levels. Using a computer model based on geological and climate records, the team found that sea levels would have risen by up to 3 meters (9.8 feet) during the the four centuries of Norse occupation of the eastern settlement Vikings established in Greenland in 985 AD. Viking burial mound at Heath Wood being excavated. Vikings brought their animals with them to Britain over 1,000 years ago The researchers calculated that 204 square kilometers (79 square miles) of land would have been been flooded during the period the settlement was occupied, making Norse communities more vulnerable to storms and coastal erosion as they also lost fertile lowland. The loss of habitable land would have been compounded by a trend from warmer temperatures toward cooler, drier temperatures in Europe that ultimately led to what is known as the Little Ice Age, which began around 1250 AD. A study detailing the findings published Monday in the scientific journal PNAS.
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Post by ratty on Apr 20, 2023 1:29:49 GMT
www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/world/vikings-greenland-rising-sea-levels-scn/index.html Now, a team of researchers from Harvard University and Pennsylvania State University say they have uncovered another key factor that could explain why the Vikings fled: a rise in sea levels. Using a computer model based on geological and climate records, the team found that sea levels would have risen by up to 3 meters (9.8 feet) during the the four centuries of Norse occupation of the eastern settlement Vikings established in Greenland in 985 AD. Viking burial mound at Heath Wood being excavated. Vikings brought their animals with them to Britain over 1,000 years ago The researchers calculated that 204 square kilometers (79 square miles) of land would have been been flooded during the period the settlement was occupied, making Norse communities more vulnerable to storms and coastal erosion as they also lost fertile lowland. The loss of habitable land would have been compounded by a trend from warmer temperatures toward cooler, drier temperatures in Europe that ultimately led to what is known as the Little Ice Age, which began around 1250 AD. A study detailing the findings published Monday in the scientific journal PNAS. Comment from another place: |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 22, 2023 2:57:01 GMT
Nicely Said. Settled science is an oxymoron.
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Post by Sigurdur on Apr 22, 2023 18:08:17 GMT
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Post by douglavers on Apr 23, 2023 2:46:47 GMT
The idea of "settled science" is like a smooth pond waiting for the next duck to land.
Having said that, thermodynamics nearly meets the criteria except that it deals with "perfect" gases particularly. The real world is not so tidy.
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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 23, 2023 13:25:08 GMT
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Post by code on Oct 11, 2023 16:02:13 GMT
Why America’s Founders Worried About Climate ChangeThomas Jefferson and other 18th-century Americans were concerned that deforestation and farming were disrupting the New World’s weather "Jefferson wasn’t just collecting data for data’s sake. Rather, he was trying to find evidence to support his conviction that the climate was changing in North America in the second half of the 18th century. He was convinced that “a change in our climate…is taking place very sensibly. Both heats and colds are become much more moderate within the memory even of the middle-aged. Snows are less frequent and less deep.” While “the elderly inform me the earth used to be covered with snow for about three months in every year,” Jefferson wrote, it no longer was, nor did rivers freeze as often as they used to." (proof global warming was started by white American Farmers)
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Post by code on Oct 11, 2023 16:03:52 GMT
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