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Post by blustnmtn on Mar 25, 2022 12:45:54 GMT
Dr. Mann does not believe in the AMO for a reason. It’s existence is an existential threat to his orthodoxy.
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 25, 2022 13:29:05 GMT
It's All Money Ollie.  |
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Post by nonentropic on Mar 25, 2022 18:02:15 GMT
If you look at the ocean currents driving the Gulf Stream what is amazing is how small the Gulf actually is for the impact.
Prior to the 2.6M years of cold on the earth we now experience the Panama region was open consider the size of the engine driving the currents to the Polar region then.
If you read Willis E on WUWT you realize the climate on earth is about moving energy from warm places to cool places very especially when you consider WE and his "emergent phenomena". It is this effect which limits the Equatorial climate temperatures.
The one thing that should worry people is that the climate is set to a maximum temperature governed by the effect but should the waters around the equator fall consistently below the critical 30C the engine slows and then the trouble begins.
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Post by Sigurdur on Mar 28, 2022 13:54:55 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 1, 2022 6:09:03 GMT
In March the sea ice dropped below 2010's average for the first time since August 2021 ! | Month | 2021 | 2021 | 2022 | 2022 |
| Position | Difference from 2010's avge | Position | Difference from 2010's avge |
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| | Jan.31st. | 7th.lowest | +79,452 sq.km. | 16th.lowest | +333,064 sq.km. | | Feb.28th. | 7th.lowest | -161,829 sq.km. | 11th.lowest | +116,764 sq.km. | | Mar.31st. | 6th.lowest | -296,133 sq.km. | 10th.lowest | -127,470 sq.km. | | Apr.30th./16th. | 9th.lowest | +1,632 sq,km. | 11th.lowest | -41,291 sq.km. |
I will continue to update the data in this post through April 2022 (Away on vacation. Next update month end) Sea Ice rose above the 2010's average on 6th.April. Dropped back BELOW 2010's average (dotted line below). What will happen by month end?  |
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Post by acidohm on Apr 1, 2022 18:22:00 GMT
In March the sea ice has dropped below 2010's average for the first time since August 2021 ! (See chart below) | Month | 2021 | 2021 | 2022 | 2022 |
| Position | Difference from 2010's avge | Position | Difference from 2010's avge |
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| | Jan.31st. | 7th.lowest | +79,452 sq.km. | 16th.lowest | +333,064 sq.km. | | Feb.28th. | 7th.lowest | -161,829 sq.km. | 11th.lowest | +116,764 sq.km. | | Mar.31st. | 6th.lowest | -296,133 sq.km. | 10th.lowest | -127,470 sq.km | | Apr.30th./1st | 9th.lowest | +1,632 sq,km. |
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I will continue to update the data through April 2022 (last date of update shown in month column above)  Are we not doing a Nenana event this year Neil?? |
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 1, 2022 18:42:11 GMT
Acidohm i was concentrating on the arctic this year.
Bowed to popular demand and opened the book.
Neil
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 1, 2022 23:20:44 GMT
I was hoping for cold enough to have a leap thaw.
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 10, 2022 6:32:53 GMT
Sigurdur,
The trend continues in Svalbard!
Norway Ice Service
The #Svalbard #seaice area from the ice chart for 7th Apr 2022 is 437,755 sq km.
This is 25,907 sq km above the 1991-2020 average. #Arctic
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 10, 2022 15:04:17 GMT
Sigurdur, The trend continues in Svalbard! Norway Ice Service The #Svalbard #seaice area from the ice chart for 7th Apr 2022 is 437,755 sq km. This is 25,907 sq km above the 1991-2020 average. #Arctic It appears that Charles Oscar has gone on vacation.  |
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 14, 2022 6:43:35 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 14, 2022 12:36:40 GMT
It's much easier to watch a sign flip in progress than the +/- plateau of a long cycle.  |
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 14, 2022 15:20:40 GMT
It's much easier to watch a sign flip in progress than the +/- plateau of a long cycle.  The Gyre may speak to us. But in its' own good time. Lot of blue out there Ollie.
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Post by ratty on Apr 24, 2022 21:48:54 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Apr 25, 2022 6:53:09 GMT
In March the sea ice dropped BELOW the 2010's average for the first time since August 2021!
By the end of April the sea ice extent had risen back ABOVE the 2010's average.
So far this year, March is the only month in which the sea ice extent has fallen below the 2010's average.
| Month | 2021 | 2021 | 2022 | 2022 |
| Position | Difference from 2010's avge. | Position | Difference from 2010's avge. |
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| | Jan.31st | 7th. lowest | +79,452 sq.km. above avge. | 16th. lowest | +333,064 sq.km. ABOVE avge. | | Feb.28th. | 7th. lowest | -161,829 sq.km. BELOW avge. | 11th. lowest | +116,764 sq.km. ABOVE avge. | | Mar.31st. | 6th. lowest | -296,133 sq.km. BELOW avge. | 10th. lowest | -127,470 sq.km. BELOW avge. | | Apr.30th. | 9th. lowest | +1,632 sq.km. above avge. | 10th. lowest | +16,886 sq.km. ABOVE avge. | | May 31st./25th. | 7th. lowest | +64,174 sq.km. above avge. | 17th. lowest | +417,722 sq.km. ABOVE avge. | | June 30th | 6th. lowest | -119,772 sq.km. BELOW avge |
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The trend in May continues to remain WELL ABOVE the 2010's average sea ice extent (dotted line below)
Looks like the trend will continue through to the end of May
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