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Post by missouriboy on Oct 3, 2023 15:41:22 GMT
How much has the Sun influenced Northern Hemisphere temperature trends? An ongoing debate
The free article pdf is in this link.
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Post by duwayne on Oct 3, 2023 16:57:07 GMT
How much has the Sun influenced Northern Hemisphere temperature trends? An ongoing debate
The free article pdf is in this link.
I wonder what the authors' own "best estimate" of the effect of CO2 on global warming is. It's obvious their estimate would be somewhat lower than the IPCC claims, but it's not clear to me from the article how much lower. |
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Post by ratty on Oct 4, 2023 5:23:54 GMT
How much has the Sun influenced Northern Hemisphere temperature trends? An ongoing debate The free article pdf is in this link. I wonder what the authors' own "best estimate" of the effect of CO2 on global warming is. It's obvious their estimate would be somewhat lower than the IPCC claims, but it's not clear to me from the article how much lower. Looking at the known 'deniers' amongst the authors, they would need to be careful what they said in order to get published? |
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Post by neilhamp on Oct 4, 2023 6:42:54 GMT
Wow! RSS showing big rise. New records being set!  |
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Post by ratty on Oct 4, 2023 8:16:13 GMT
I wonder what the authors' own "best estimate" of the effect of CO2 on global warming is. It's obvious their estimate would be somewhat lower than the IPCC claims, but it's not clear to me from the article how much lower. Looking at the known 'deniers' amongst the authors, they would need to be careful what they said in order to get published? Having read more of the article, I see that they were not trying to be careful at all; example from the conclusion: |
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Post by blustnmtn on Oct 4, 2023 12:33:24 GMT
Looking at the known 'deniers' amongst the authors, they would need to be careful what they said in order to get published? Having read more of the article, I see that they were not trying to be careful at all; example from the conclusion: I think it's a pretty good shot across the IPCC's bow with regard to the true pursuit of science vs. an obvious agenda driven by confirmation bias. The publication authorship is made up of both sides of the debate so though the climate sensitivity to CO2 isn't debated directly in this paper, the subject will have to be addressed if anything at all comes of this. |
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Post by ratty on Oct 4, 2023 21:39:20 GMT
Having read more of the article, I see that they were not trying to be careful at all; example from the conclusion: I think it's a pretty good shot across the IPCC's bow with regard to the true pursuit of science vs. an obvious agenda driven by confirmation bias. The publication authorship is made up of both sides of the debate so though the climate sensitivity to CO2 isn't debated directly in this paper, the subject will have to be addressed if anything at all comes of this. Something just published from Connolly, Soon, et al .... Has the Sun’s true role in global warming been miscalculated?Naughty corner or turning tide? |
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 4, 2023 22:16:15 GMT
I think it's a pretty good shot across the IPCC's bow with regard to the true pursuit of science vs. an obvious agenda driven by confirmation bias. The publication authorship is made up of both sides of the debate so though the climate sensitivity to CO2 isn't debated directly in this paper, the subject will have to be addressed if anything at all comes of this. Something just published from Connolly, Soon, et al .... Has the Sun’s true role in global warming been miscalculated?Naughty corner or turning tide? When ya got 'em by their checkbooks, their hearts and minds will follow. They don't read scientific journals. |
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 2, 2023 18:11:41 GMT
This is a long-series presentation of UAH atmospheric temperature anomalies for the Lower Troposphere, Middle Troposphere and Lower Stratosphere over the Global Oceans, with solar geomagnetic activity. There are Lower Stratosphere temperature spikes in 1981-82 and 1991-92 that dwarf other time periods. These were periods of strong volcanism. In comparison, Hunga Tonga did not raise stratospheric temperatures much. volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?question=eruptionsbyyear&checkyear=2019 
So how has the January 2022 Hunga Tonga infusion of water vapor into the stratosphere affected lower troposphere atmospheric temperatures? Charts below show that major ENSO events are associated ... WITH A LAG ... with increases / decreases in global and tropical lower troposphere temperatures. For a year after the Hunga Tonga eruption, global-tropical temperature anomalies bounced up and down like a yoyo ... before taking off like a rocket (with no lag) as the current El Nino took affect. So, for a year, LT temperature anomalies did not rise significantly. Then ENSO kicked in and temps rose by 1C. Mechanical explanation please!
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Post by duwayne on Dec 3, 2023 16:10:14 GMT
Missouri, is my eyesight off? The ONI line on the last chart above seems to be delayed a little from the chart immediately above it.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 3, 2023 17:05:33 GMT
Missouri, is my eyesight off? The ONI line on the last chart above seems to be delayed a little from the chart immediately above it. Don't think so. The ENSO Y-axis is just stretched to a value of 3 versus a value of 4 (the chart above) and covers a shorter time period. |
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 5, 2023 5:40:58 GMT
The Climate SS seems concerned. They are shriller than usual.
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 15, 2023 19:16:17 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 15, 2023 19:32:45 GMT
What kind of Award Ceremony should we hold? Humble Pie as dessert? Light the stakes at 7 for entertainment? |
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Post by ratty on Dec 15, 2023 23:38:41 GMT
I need someone smarter than I to explain this image ....  |
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