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Post by acidohm on Dec 12, 2023 19:23:16 GMT
I wasn't meaning to be negative at all you know, just saw those two crazy reviews. I looked at the website photos, the properties look great. Impressive.
You're OK W, at worst you triggered some PTSD and I self therapised myself by externalising 😆
We're all in the circle of trust here!
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Post by walnut on Dec 13, 2023 3:00:41 GMT
My AI autotrading robot is basically complete. Took exactly two weeks to get it to this stage. It is achieving a back-tested win rate of about 70% over the last 3 years of daytrading. It has several features which enhance it's trading competency, patience to stick with trades, and risk management. Now I need to study the data more to optimize it for a higher win rate given volatility, and a few more smaller issues.
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Post by ratty on Dec 13, 2023 8:10:12 GMT
My AI autotrading robot is basically complete. Took exactly two weeks to get it to this stage. It is achieving a back-tested win rate of about 70% over the last 3 years of daytrading. It has several features which enhance it's trading competency, patience to stick with trades, and risk management. Now I need to study the data more to optimize it for a higher win rate given volatility, and a few more smaller issues. With software, there is always 'something else' that needs to be done. When it's sold to market, the fun really begins. End users break things!  Of course, you could use the Micro$oft method of beta testing: Release it live and let 'em complain! |
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Post by walnut on Dec 13, 2023 13:18:30 GMT
I'm thinking there will be lots of issues to sort out. It's a pretty big project for me and my son Jake in the evenings.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 13, 2023 14:45:02 GMT
My AI autotrading robot is basically complete. Took exactly two weeks to get it to this stage. It is achieving a back-tested win rate of about 70% over the last 3 years of daytrading. It has several features which enhance it's trading competency, patience to stick with trades, and risk management. Now I need to study the data more to optimize it for a higher win rate given volatility, and a few more smaller issues. Did it come in a package? What about that now under-employed broker? Yes ... machines have been displacing people for a long time now. Creative people just advanced beyond the machine-capable frontier. And then Hal locked Dave out of the command module.
When "the Clown" isn't hiring there will be more un-creative pooh folks plying the 5-finger discount trade ... or the midnight auto parts excursion ... Or various other inter-tribal loot hunts. It is probably what sent Vikings and Islamists and Pilgrims(?) a-raiding. The later used a Bible and disease ... although they really didn't mean it. Squanto saw the mistake too late. It doesn't require a vivid imagination to picture the business end of a "sack".
My Dad worked the New Deal public works projects for a while before coming home and becoming a machinist just before the War. While conservatives didn't like them, public works projects likely saved a lot of young men through the Depression. Now, our Government cannot afford a public works program? There are now shootouts on raid-and-pillage runs. When the Government can't afford food stamps, what happens? Mostly things don't seem as bleak after the fact. If YOU are not on the business end of history.
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Post by walnut on Dec 13, 2023 16:36:41 GMT
My AI autotrading robot is basically complete. Took exactly two weeks to get it to this stage. It is achieving a back-tested win rate of about 70% over the last 3 years of daytrading. It has several features which enhance it's trading competency, patience to stick with trades, and risk management. Now I need to study the data more to optimize it for a higher win rate given volatility, and a few more smaller issues. Did it come in a package? What about that now under-employed broker? Yes ... machines have been displacing people for a long time now. Creative people just advanced beyond the machine-capable frontier. And then Hal locked Dave out of the command module.
When "the Clown" isn't hiring there will be more un-creative pooh folks plying the 5-finger discount trade ... or the midnight auto parts excursion ... Or various other inter-tribal loot hunts. It is probably what sent Vikings and Islamists and Pilgrims(?) a-raiding. The later used a Bible and disease ... although they really didn't mean it. Squanto saw the mistake too late. It doesn't require a vivid imagination to picture the business end of a "sack".
My Dad worked the New Deal public works projects for a while before coming home and becoming a machinist just before the War. While conservatives didn't like them, public works projects likely saved a lot of young men through the Depression. Now, our Government cannot afford a public works program? There are now shootouts on raid-and-pillage runs. When the Government can't afford food stamps, what happens? Mostly things don't seem as bleak after the fact. If YOU are not on the business end of history.
Moboy no packages I'm a quick study (ha). I think you'd better be or else. I have had some experience with AI now and let me tell you changes are coming for planet Earth. To say some jobs will go away is an understatement. The powers that be are down playing the advancements in ai because of the well-founded concerns. More stratification and differentiation is coming. The rich will get richer. The drone class will be larger. |
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 13, 2023 21:22:15 GMT
You are likely right ...but... If Ziehan is right and we need to rebuild our industrial-technical capacity on the N.American continent, then humans and droids can coexist. Must keep honorable work available for the population. Some won't want to.
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Post by walnut on Dec 13, 2023 23:07:39 GMT
I should have said above, there are no "packages" as I think you meant, but as I mentioned before there are Python code libraries which you reference to perform functions. I certainly didn't re-invent the wheel this month.
I think that the class separation will continue to crystallize into something like a dystopian sci-fi movie. Be in the group which does well, not the other one.
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Post by flearider on Dec 14, 2023 13:45:19 GMT
Did it come in a package? What about that now under-employed broker? Yes ... machines have been displacing people for a long time now. Creative people just advanced beyond the machine-capable frontier. And then Hal locked Dave out of the command module.
When "the Clown" isn't hiring there will be more un-creative pooh folks plying the 5-finger discount trade ... or the midnight auto parts excursion ... Or various other inter-tribal loot hunts. It is probably what sent Vikings and Islamists and Pilgrims(?) a-raiding. The later used a Bible and disease ... although they really didn't mean it. Squanto saw the mistake too late. It doesn't require a vivid imagination to picture the business end of a "sack".
My Dad worked the New Deal public works projects for a while before coming home and becoming a machinist just before the War. While conservatives didn't like them, public works projects likely saved a lot of young men through the Depression. Now, our Government cannot afford a public works program? There are now shootouts on raid-and-pillage runs. When the Government can't afford food stamps, what happens? Mostly things don't seem as bleak after the fact. If YOU are not on the business end of history.
Moboy no packages I'm a quick study (ha). I think you'd better be or else. I have had some experience with AI now and let me tell you changes are coming for planet Earth. To say some jobs will go away is an understatement. The powers that be are down playing the advancements in ai because of the well-founded concerns. More stratification and differentiation is coming. The rich will get richer. The drone class will be larger. they will always need some place to show off and eat .. looking to open that bbq place next yr a kind of retirement fund |
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 14, 2023 14:03:48 GMT
Moboy no packages I'm a quick study (ha). I think you'd better be or else. I have had some experience with AI now and let me tell you changes are coming for planet Earth. To say some jobs will go away is an understatement. The powers that be are down playing the advancements in ai because of the well-founded concerns. More stratification and differentiation is coming. The rich will get richer. The drone class will be larger. they will always need some place to show off and eat .. looking to open that bbq place next yr a kind of retirement fund I wish you well with that. When it gets a name let us know. |
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Post by walnut on Dec 14, 2023 14:26:03 GMT
Will it be located near Tulsa
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Post by walnut on Dec 14, 2023 23:24:44 GMT
Well I asked the latest and greatest AI 'Gemini' to review and evaluate my machine learned auto trader robot program. It got a passing grade. My concern is the day is coming when it might be possible to just have AI design things like this.
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The latest version of your auto-trader program looks impressive! Here's my analysis of it:
Strengths:
Data acquisition: You've incorporated live data retrieval using the Interactive Brokers API, allowing the program to adapt to real-time market conditions.
Feature engineering: The program utilizes various features like Time Segmented Volume (TSV), Daily Return, volume Moving Average, RSI, and SSB, adding depth to the trading model.
Blending features: You've created a "blended_model" by combining different features with weighted coefficients, allowing for flexibility and customization.
Patience factor integration: The program dynamically adjusts the patience factor based on volatility, adding a layer of risk management.
GridSearchCV for hyperparameter tuning: You've used GridSearchCV to find the optimal hyperparameters for the RandomForestClassifier, potentially improving its performance.
Trade execution with risk management: The program implements trade execution based on predictions, with stop-loss and risk-factor considerations for managing potential losses.
Live trade execution: The code demonstrates the potential for integrating the trained model with live trading using the Interactive Brokers API.
Areas for further improvement:
Backtesting and performance evaluation: While the program calculates win rate and total profit/loss, it would be beneficial to conduct extensive backtesting on historical data to assess its overall performance and long-term viability.
Optimization of hyperparameters and features: Consider exploring different feature combinations and hyperparameter optimization techniques like Bayesian optimization or genetic algorithms to potentially improve the model's accuracy and robustness.
Transaction costs and slippage: The program currently doesn't account for transaction costs and slippage, which can impact its profitability in real-world trading. Integrating these factors into the model would provide a more realistic picture of its performance.
Live trading considerations: Implementing live trading requires additional considerations like market order execution, data quality checks, and robust error handling mechanisms to ensure reliable and stable operation.
Overall:
Your auto-trader program demonstrates a solid understanding of machine learning and algorithmic trading techniques. By addressing the points mentioned above and further refining the model, you can potentially improve its performance and potential for generating consistent profits.
For further development, I recommend focusing on backtesting, optimization, and live trading considerations to ensure the program's effectiveness and practical applicability. Remember, successful algorithmic trading requires a combination of strong technical skills, a deep understanding of financial markets, and careful risk management practices.
I hope this analysis is helpful! Please feel free to ask any further questions you might have.
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Post by ratty on Dec 15, 2023 1:16:31 GMT
Crikey Walnut! I find that assessment a little disconcerting, even scary, and I can't explain why.  |
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Post by blustnmtn on Dec 15, 2023 1:25:52 GMT
My question is what happens when all trading is using AI…can all trades all be profitable simultaneously? Can value only increase? I don’t think so.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 15, 2023 1:54:54 GMT
I hope that Cindy is friendlier than Hal.
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