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Post by flearider on May 30, 2023 15:03:20 GMT
yes i understand that there throwing everything into ai .. but then again so is everyone else .. nvida is losing the battle they have grown to big there losing/or will lose the desktop market next yr because of price gouging.. they said next qtr would be a 11 bill $ not going to happen amd has the server market soon they will have ai .. anyone want to explain shorting stock or point me in a direction ? thx guys  Here's the thing to remember. When you short a stock, you are selling shares that you do not own. You must be able to buy them back at all times. Let's say that you shorted at $300 a share. Then the price goes to $400 a share. You are required to have that $100 on deposit with your broker. Plus, the broker probably wants some cushion, maybe 10% of the total share price, so you actually have to deposit $140 a share in your account. That can move against you very quickly. It's fine if you've got the funds to margin, and if the stock eventually goes back down to below $300. But it really sucks to run out of margin money at $550. Because then your broker will buy back those shares at $550, and you just realized a $250 loss. At that point, it doesn't matter if the stock price goes back down to $250. You already covered at $550. No matter how many times you may have heard this before, it doesn't hurt to hear it again: The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent. Maybe nvidia does actually have to drop back down to below $200. That may actually be the case. It still doesn't mean that the stock can't hang out at $600 for a couple months first. just to let you know this is not for now ... about 1.5 yrs time .. |
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Post by ratty on May 31, 2023 1:26:23 GMT
Ok you brought it up. Which stock are you short selling? I have a history of getting killed on "hot" stock tips, especially my own so what do you got? NVidia and tsmc Flea, FWIW, this arrived in my inbox yesterday: NVIDIA and WPP develop cutting-edge content engine |
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Post by flearider on May 31, 2023 6:32:20 GMT
yep ? they pushed into cars .. that failed... they pushed into servers losing ground .. there desktop area is just to expensive ..people are not buying (we wont talk about the 4060 ti disaster or that they only put 8gb on a card) so there doing the only thing left AI but so is everyone else ..i see them as a IBM just past the peek of there game they did not diversify and crashed .. still there but no were as big as they were .. with amd pushing out intel in the chip market they can now spend r&d on cpu advancement and rdna 4 with it's packet setup (interchangeable) is going to hit them hard .. never mind intel(with deep pockets) pushing in with there second gen battlemage cpu at discounted price ..the only thing nvidia can do is cut prices but doing that will make the investors run .. just the way i see it .. |
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Post by walnut on May 31, 2023 12:16:55 GMT
You can have a well reasoned out case for shorting a stock, but the necessity of timing your short fairly perfectly and the dynamics of the market make it a difficult way to build wealth. my .02
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Post by duwayne on May 31, 2023 16:26:18 GMT
yep ? they pushed into cars .. that failed... they pushed into servers losing ground .. there desktop area is just to expensive ..people are not buying (we wont talk about the 4060 ti disaster or that they only put 8gb on a card) so there doing the only thing left AI but so is everyone else ..i see them as a IBM just past the peek of there game they did not diversify and crashed .. still there but no were as big as they were .. with amd pushing out intel in the chip market they can now spend r&d on cpu advancement and rdna 4 with it's packet setup (interchangeable) is going to hit them hard .. never mind intel(with deep pockets) pushing in with there second gen battlemage cpu at discounted price ..the only thing nvidia can do is cut prices but doing that will make the investors run .. just the way i see it .. Just imagine how happy you would be today if you had correctly predicted NVIDIA's past failures and sold their stock short.
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Post by walnut on May 31, 2023 16:46:44 GMT
yep ? they pushed into cars .. that failed... they pushed into servers losing ground .. there desktop area is just to expensive ..people are not buying (we wont talk about the 4060 ti disaster or that they only put 8gb on a card) so there doing the only thing left AI but so is everyone else ..i see them as a IBM just past the peek of there game they did not diversify and crashed .. still there but no were as big as they were .. with amd pushing out intel in the chip market they can now spend r&d on cpu advancement and rdna 4 with it's packet setup (interchangeable) is going to hit them hard .. never mind intel(with deep pockets) pushing in with there second gen battlemage cpu at discounted price ..the only thing nvidia can do is cut prices but doing that will make the investors run .. just the way i see it .. Just imagine how happy you would be today if you had correctly predicted NVIDIA's past failures and sold their stock short.
I'll never try to call a top on a proven thoroughbred stock like NVDA. There are easier dog stocks to play the shorting game with. |
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Post by ratty on May 31, 2023 23:24:58 GMT
[ Snip ] Just imagine how happy you would be today if you had correctly predicted NVIDIA's past failures and sold their stock short.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 1, 2023 14:34:14 GMT
[ Snip ] Just imagine how happy you would be today if you had correctly predicted NVIDIA's past failures and sold their stock short.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 2, 2023 0:53:39 GMT
May it fall into the Bay and drown.
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Post by ratty on Jun 2, 2023 1:09:10 GMT
May it fall into the Bay and drown. Sh!t for brains!  |
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Post by walnut on Jun 2, 2023 2:31:48 GMT
There should be a civil penalty for being so destructively wrong.
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Post by nonentropic on Jun 2, 2023 4:10:23 GMT
See we all go the same way, I want to build re-education camps for those people.
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Post by ratty on Jun 2, 2023 4:16:08 GMT
See we all go the same way, I want to build re-education camps for those people. Siberia? |
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 3, 2023 16:29:32 GMT
See we all go the same way, I want to build re-education camps for those people. Siberia? Pluto. |
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Post by ratty on Jun 4, 2023 1:02:30 GMT
I hear people will be dying to get there ... |
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