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Post by flearider on Aug 20, 2021 18:27:12 GMT
i don't mean this as a bad thing but places like the usa china and russia .. can not succeed there just to big .. people hate alternative views we always have .. and once outside a area those views are well alternative ..as a whole we may agree on a few small things but as a whole we are lost .. the only way to push things thru are bribes(ie:lobbing ) or blackmail .. as a small minded species which we are we need to govern on a smaller scale .. the only reason we sc25 get along is we are the few that see things that bother us or interest us .. it's the same on other forums .. .. so should we all move in together ..lol no within a week we would see the difference we don't want to .. just saying .. we are better alone than we are together or it will just fall apart ..
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Post by gridley on Aug 21, 2021 1:56:22 GMT
That is actually the genius of the way the US was intended to be. The states were supposed to be heavily self-governing, with a central government just strong enough to keep them together. We've lost that.
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Post by walnut on Aug 21, 2021 2:05:31 GMT
I agree, I think that the US is too large and diverse to function well.
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Post by ratty on Aug 21, 2021 12:48:51 GMT
That is actually the genius of the way the US was intended to be. The states were supposed to be heavily self-governing, with a central government just strong enough to keep them together. We've lost that. Something in what you wrote, Flea, caused me to think of this:
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 21, 2021 13:54:18 GMT
That is actually the genius of the way the US was intended to be. The states were supposed to be heavily self-governing, with a central government just strong enough to keep them together. We've lost that. I concur. Federalism is the key ingredient to the success/longevity of the US experiment. The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights define the powers of the States, the Federal government and the people. This document has unfortunately been ignored to the destruction of the foundation of the country. Perhaps the pushback from Florida, Texas and a few others will force a true Constitutional Crisis that wakes up the governments of the states to assert their powers. That will require spines though. That’s asking a lot from politicians.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 23, 2021 17:47:14 GMT
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Post by code on Sept 7, 2021 2:21:49 GMT
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Post by ratty on Sept 7, 2021 6:00:30 GMT
Wait till AOC, Kerry & crew hear about that!
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Post by Sigurdur on Sept 7, 2021 11:32:33 GMT
Great article. True article for a change.
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Post by code on Sept 7, 2021 14:43:18 GMT
No, they have not been lumped together.
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Post by gridley on Sept 8, 2021 11:38:18 GMT
No, they have not been lumped together.
And yet...
"Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally..."
And the short version of their explanation is that masks, lockdowns, etc., somehow couldn't stop the spread of COVID-19, but magically stopped the spread of the flu.
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Post by Sigurdur on Sept 8, 2021 11:43:31 GMT
No, they have not been lumped together.
And yet...
"Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally..."
And the short version of their explanation is that masks, lockdowns, etc., somehow couldn't stop the spread of COVID-19, but magically stopped the spread of the flu.
Liberal logic.
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Post by gridley on Sept 12, 2021 15:11:09 GMT
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Post by Sigurdur on Sept 12, 2021 16:42:18 GMT
There is something profoundly stupid running amuck in this administration.
Currently, natural immunity is running light years ahead of the vaccine. YET, this administration refuses to acknowledge the current scientific evidence.
Covid19 will be with us forever. The SARS-1 version, T-cell memory is still present 17 years after infection. All signs are pointing to our bodies duplicating that memory with SARS-2.
About 1/3 of the population will not contract Covid19. Whatever the reason, that has been published in peer reviewed journals. That leaves 2/3 of the population at risk at the beginning of the pandemic. It is apparent that the US population currently has between 60-70% immunity.
I hadn't realized I had been exposed to so many active cases. Was in implement dealer yesterday, found out all 3 of the 4 front line parts guys contracted Covid19. I was in there frequently during their "contagious" phase. Beginning to think I am one of those with natural immunity.
So much to learn, glean from present data.
This administration seems incapable of learning.
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 12, 2021 18:33:37 GMT
There is something profoundly stupid running amuck in this administration. Currently, natural immunity is running light years ahead of the vaccine. YET, this administration refuses to acknowledge the current scientific evidence. Covid19 will be with us forever. The SARS-1 version, T-cell memory is still present 17 years after infection. All signs are pointing to our bodies duplicating that memory with SARS-2. About 1/3 of the population will not contract Covid19. Whatever the reason, that has been published in peer reviewed journals. That leaves 2/3 of the population at risk at the beginning of the pandemic. It is apparent that the US population currently has between 60-70% immunity. I hadn't realized I had been exposed to so many active cases. Was in implement dealer yesterday, found out all 3 of the 4 front line parts guys contracted Covid19. I was in there frequently during their "contagious" phase. Beginning to think I am one of those with natural immunity. So much to learn, glean from present data. This administration seems incapable of learning. Very good summary of the current situation, both with the virus and its use as a political weapon. Not much different than strongly held views on climate drivers. It is an unwillingness to consider other possibilities than those which they believe. Either purposely because they conflict with political purposes ... or because that is how their peer group believes. The powers that be behind this administration have (I believe) adopted positions on Covid (the pox) and on AGW(the gas) that support a concentration of power in the central government in opposition to government decentalisation and personal freedoms enshrined in our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Perhaps I am being overly cynical or paranoid ... but I see this period as an escalation of a fight between the new authoritarian Communism (call it New World Order, or what you will) and the old values of the Republic. We have been on this path for some time now. Not to be cocky, but I'm with you on the natural and acquired immunity thesis. I have not exactly hidden myself away during this period. Church groups, malls, businesses and other exposure venues. One negative test and one positive test with no symptoms after exposure to a wife with symptoms and a positive test. Not to mention exposure to a son who associates with fraternities and other groups of at risk young adults. No symptoms there either. We (as a population) are much stronger than we think ... but they want us to be afraid. I consider myself a walking test. If I drop dead of Covid, the null hypothesis will have been confirmed. There is an absolutely huge data base that has accumulated on "the pox" ... and very large studies are pointing toward your conclusions. But just like climate science, "they" will pick and choose those results that they wish to see. I am not an anti-vaxxer. But the political-vaxxers are seriously testing my patience. They should seriously test the patience of all supporters of our constitutional republic. I will not buy the most extreme opinions on the effects of the vaccines until the studies are in. But I am losing faith in our government as an arbitrator of "the truth".
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