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Post by glennkoks on Jan 25, 2024 2:26:36 GMT
The Governor of the fine state of Texas has made some bold moves. He has declared an invasion, sent a letter to Biden. Dems want Biden to federalize the Texas National Guard. It's getting interesting. The following is an excerpt from the letter to Biden
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Post by walnut on Jan 25, 2024 2:38:42 GMT
It's getting interesting for sure
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 25, 2024 14:01:18 GMT
The issue(s) of State Rights has not really been pushed "hard" since the 1860s ... two Fourth Turnings ago. In the 1930s as "We" descended into WWII, Roosevelt grabbed onto the Great Depression, and federalized (confiscated) much that was previously "individually sovereign" ... such as gold ownership ... and employer of "last resort". Great Grandpa Roosevelt became the demi-king which we had not had since George the Intolerable. I am not a lawyer, but I remember reading the particulars of a Supreme Court decision issued after the Civil War regarding the validity of State bonds issued by the State of Texas during the War. The Court decided that the bonds were not valid "in that particular case" since Texas was in illegal revolt against the Federal Government. Seemingly, the Court ruling left "wiggle room" in the decision, that while that separation was illegal, not all "separations" would be the same.
Perhaps Code might provide a more educated translation of what this meant.
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Post by walnut on Jan 25, 2024 16:26:30 GMT
The question Texit poses- "would you join the US? if no, then why would you stay?" It's not quite that simple in execution of course. Big convoys headed to Texas border and CA and AZ in a few days.
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Post by code on Jan 25, 2024 18:32:26 GMT
The issue(s) of State Rights has not really been pushed "hard" since the 1860s ... two Fourth Turnings ago. In the 1930s as "We" descended into WWII, Roosevelt grabbed onto the Great Depression, and federalized (confiscated) much that was previously "individually sovereign" ... such as gold ownership ... and employer of "last resort". Great Grandpa Roosevelt became the demi-king which we had not had since George the Intolerable. I am not a lawyer, but I remember reading the particulars of a Supreme Court decision issued after the Civil War regarding the validity of State bonds issued by the State of Texas during the War. The Court decided that the bonds were not valid "in that particular case" since Texas was in illegal revolt against the Federal Government. Seemingly, the Court ruling left "wiggle room" in the decision, that while that separation was illegal, not all "separations" would be the same. Perhaps Code might provide a more educated translation of what this meant.
LOL! (you've got my ticket) What makes you think I have any idea? Isn't Walnut a lawyer? Ask him. But since you ask as I see it,
Article II. Each state retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence, and every Power, Jurisdiction and right, which is not by this confederation expressly delegated to the United States, in Congress assembled, meaning only when the States agreed to gather.
The largest difference between America's two governing documents (Articles of Confederation and Constitution) is in the Articles sovereignty resided in the states, and in the Constitution sovereignty resided in Congress aka the United States. The difference being in the former Congress, which was made up of the States, had no really power (Congress could not raise funds, regulate trade, or conduct foreign policy without agreement of the states) In the latter the States, via the Constitution, granted Congress the ability to act independently of the States providing power to the Federal Government.
The court ruling you note:
While I do agree with Justice Grier about the issue of Texas statehood being a matter for congressional rather than judicial determination, I also will note I believe it within the Court to interpret and so Justice Grier incorrectly removed himself.
Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede." He further recalls the Pledge of Allegiance, "one Nation, indivisible." Scalia invoking the pledge is not a legal opinion, as the pledge is an involuntary and non legally binding pledge. Do I agree with Scalia? No. I think there is a path for withdrawal and succession. How? I have no idea.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 25, 2024 22:05:55 GMT
Time for Brandon to put up, or shut up. Time for other states to stand with Texas. |
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Post by walnut on Jan 25, 2024 23:06:07 GMT
I'd like to know what's really going on down there. Can't illegals walk 1/2 mile east or west of the park? There's 1254 miles of border to choose from. Some too inhospitable, I understand. But surely somewhere other than where they've strung razor wire.
It's a pretty long drive. Wish there was a good ham repeater network so we could get first hand news.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 26, 2024 2:13:45 GMT
Looks a whole lot like ROCNA.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 27, 2024 0:38:37 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 30, 2024 0:32:03 GMT
The huddled masses are from everywhere. When Tik Toc proclaimed that the border was open, they grabbed whatever they had, and implemented whatever plans. Cost many of them a lot more than 10% for the Big Guy.
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Post by glennkoks on Jan 30, 2024 1:46:31 GMT
Not the first image anyone should see of the Lone Star State...
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Post by ratty on Jan 30, 2024 1:55:37 GMT
Not the first image anyone should see of the Lone Star State... Might be a deterrent if shown to the migrant caravan. |
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 30, 2024 2:20:49 GMT
Not the first image anyone should see of the Lone Star State... Might be a deterrent if shown to the migrant caravan. Many of these people have nothing to go back to. Not unlike many Irish or English who indentured themselves for transport to the New World. IF they survived a specified number of years at hard labor, they were supposed to get a small plot of land for themselves. |
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Post by missouriboy on Feb 1, 2024 19:28:28 GMT
BINGO! This may be the single most important set of surveys and analysis conducted in recent years. As a danger to a country founded on individual rights and freedoms, this pretty much identifies who the enemy is. We all knew it in our gut. This merely (but importantly) quantifies it. Should we now openly call them out for what they are? If our own house was full of pestilence-carrying vermin, what would we do? "They" seem to think that the teeming masses they are encouraging on their northward journey will throw their lot in with them. They may be be very surprised ... as many in these masses may recognize "them" from places they have just left.
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Post by missouriboy on Mar 13, 2024 15:00:59 GMT
Is anyone here surprised?
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