The race for the Presidency

[walnut]

Aug 19, 2023 13:40:09 GMT blustnmtn said:

This nation desperately needs a resolute Constitutionalist with judgment and balls that cannot be bought. It requires a confident clear thinking Alpha male with a healthy ego but not a narcissist. I don’t see that combination of attributes in the field. An extremely rare combination of traits in this time. The US is in a perilous moment in its history and will require a Cincinnatus character to save the precious gift the founders gave us all. ☹️

I agree, an alpha with a brain.  I like our local governor, however his name is certainly not being bantered.  But he does not flinch when challenged by the local established interests.  I wish he would appear on the radar screen.

[Sigurdur]

www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/north-dakota-governor-doug-burgum-gop-frontrunner-trump-indictment/

[nonentropic]

Gridley fully agree.

[ratty]

Aug 18, 2023 3:51:13 GMT Sigurdur said:

We are in Banana Republic territory.

Join the club!

[Sigurdur]

Aug 19, 2023 22:55:40 GMT ratty said:

Aug 18, 2023 3:51:13 GMT Sigurdur said:

We are in Banana Republic territory.

Join the club!

I don't want to have joined that club.

I don't care for President Trump. Policies were very good with a few exceptions.

As a man exhibiting restraint he sucks.

The stupid idea that a few UNARMED citizens could topple the US government is beyond the pale.

The prosecution of a political rival now is acceptable for too many folks. That WILL bring down the country.

[missouriboy]

Aug 20, 2023 1:33:16 GMT Sigurdur said:

Aug 19, 2023 22:55:40 GMT ratty said:

Join the club!

I don't want to have joined that club.

I don't care for President Trump. Policies were very good with a few exceptions.

As a man exhibiting restraint he sucks.

The stupid idea that a few UNARMED citizens could topple the US government is beyond the pale.

The prosecution of a political rival now is acceptable for too many folks. That WILL bring down the country.

They should read their history on our very own civil war.  It's not the loons in the fringes.  Like John Brown.  It's the general level of disgust between regions and micro-regions.  This time there is an urban/non-urban divide.  Not just Anglo-Saxon and Celtish strains.

[justme]

I just watched this speech by Vivek Ramaswamy. While a long shot to win the nomination in the Republican primaries, if he wins it, he will have my vote.

His foreign policy is to bring Russia closer and in alliance with the United States. He is also brutally honest on several issues, I have never heard a politician be honest about. He is against climate change religion and says climate change policies, hurt more people than climate change (different speech).

It's incredibly refreshing having a young and articulate candidate who gets straight to the point, and states actual solutions.






I did not watch the debate. However, I just watched some highlights. He roasted several other candidates.

[ratty]

FWIW, some colourful ramblings from another forum ...

He's the wizzard at messin with their heads innee?

And they thought they were messing with his? They're the ones getting caught red handed, he keeps sliding through, so, who's picked the wrong head to mess with? Wait and see I suppose.

He's playing a dangerous game, talking about 'civil war' or at least even answering the quetion as he did raises that bullshit 'insurrection' incident. But.. 'his' people get that he's reflecting their views on 'what they've done to this Country' so is he their 'martyr' or their dog whistler? or both.

My picture of all this is that too many people who should know better have completely misread the sitchewashun.

The "progressives" have been doing their level damnedness to "change" the USA. They've warped it's collective mind with social media bullshit, focused attention on the ridiculous, and dumbed down the younger generations.
They altered the priorities and traditions that held it together, drove divisions through the old pecking orders, fanned the thuggish resentment flames of the worst in them, and smothered the religious reliance that kept them more or less in line.

They gave them this whole 'new world' of entitlement and spite, and built a whole new jungle run by higher class crooks and protected by lower class 'security authorities'.

And then they are stupid enough to launch an attack on Trump using the methods employed to 'shame' someone from the OLD traditions of the USA. They killed the old traditions. it's a new jungle fellas, remember? You built it!

Trump wouldn't have lasted 3 minutes in the old USA of the Ikes and Roosevelts. But it's not that USA any more is it?
tch. Fancy them forgetting that.

The bullshit phony moral outrage, gasp, he said 'pussy'... and charging him as a criminal for doing exactly the same thing their own leadership people are up to their necks in may fool the already dumbed down, but the old ways are still stirring in some sectors and they can see the glaring hypocrisy, and the malevolent intent being focused on Trump... and they are asking Why? If not to cover their own criminality? To shut him up?

And it's proving to be a very good question.
Unless you are 'Calvin' you can't tear up all the rules then accuse someone else of not adhering to them!

They underestimated the tenacity of the 'Teflon Don', and underestimate his understanding of how to play to an audience.

..really badly. His popularity shoots skyward with every new charge. Someone should have noticed that by now.
'They' are proving to be even dumber, and more desperate, than they look and sound. !

They brought a knife to a gunfight.

...and geeeze but it's entertaining to watch.


He's just'turning himself in' and which 'side' is looking the most ridiculous for this piece of farce? He turns up in a fleet black cars and walks in like he owns the joint... oh yeah, we got him this time.. I think, well, maybe not.....

Something going on with Rudi, he's putting on an act too, going to a bail bondsman? That has to be bit of theatre.. but I didn't catch the gist of it.

Rudi tamed New York! I reckon he's allowed a free pass for that feat alone. reeeespect.

[code]

Trump is scared

[nonentropic]

I would say he is scared that VivekGRamaswamy will steal his thunder.

Man that is a candidate that would explode the game.

[missouriboy]

I'll have to take a look a Vivek.  It's looking a bit like 1860 out there from a certain perspective.  Appalachia knows that of which this speaks.  And so does the Midwest I think.

Why did this rocket to the stratosphere?  It's not because it's the best song ever written.  But it captured a cultural disgust and anger that is bubbling just below the surface awaiting a release.  Beware you fake "gentlemen" of power.  There is an angry Celtic Moon rising.  The meteor of the revolt?  The so-called middle class is beginning to understand that their "lifestyle" that expanded from at least the time of their parents is dying ... because? ... the aggregate top 10%(or?) has managed to corral the majority of the productive resources ... and leave the so-called middle class with only those that are anchored by debt.  Often large amounts of debt.  Rich Men North of Richmond are the newest Lords of the Manor ... Of course they include politicians ... and the worthless hangers-on whose teeth are anchored on the public teat.  Maybe this time, "A Hard Rain" really is gonna fall. 

[walnut]

Aug 26, 2023 13:54:35 GMT missouriboy said:

I'll have to take a look a Vivek.  It's looking a bit like 1860 out there from a certain perspective.  Appalachia knows that of which this speaks.  And so does the Midwest I think.

Why did this rocket to the stratosphere?  It's not because it's the best song ever written.  But it captured a cultural disgust and anger that is bubbling just below the surface awaiting a release.  Beware you fake "gentlemen" of power.  There is an angry Celtic Moon rising.  The meteor of the revolt?  The so-called middle class is beginning to understand that their "lifestyle" that expanded from at least the time of their parents is dying ... because? ... the aggregate top 10%(or?) has managed to corral the majority of the productive resources ... and leave the so-called middle class with only those that are anchored by debt.  Often large amounts of debt.  Rich Men North of Richmond are the newest Lords of the Manor ... Of course they include politicians ... and the worthless hangers-on whose teeth are anchored on the public teat.  Maybe this time, "A Hard Rain" really is gonna fall. 

[missouriboy]

This is an issue too.  John Kennedy continues to resonate.

[walnut]

www.mediamatters.org/newsmax/newsmax-sarah-palin-calls-civil-war

[ratty]

Aug 26, 2023 15:44:11 GMT walnut said:

www.mediamatters.org/newsmax/newsmax-sarah-palin-calls-civil-war

Missouri, prime your musket!