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Post by gridley on Oct 21, 2024 12:20:48 GMT
They don't have Bidenomics.
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 21, 2024 18:58:30 GMT
The quickest way to turn an economy around is converting to a wartime economy. Hitler did it in the 1930's and we did it in the 1940's. It's a well documented short term boost but it is really just Keynesian deficit spending on steroids.
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 22, 2024 1:56:43 GMT
The quickest way to turn an economy around is converting to a wartime economy. Hitler did it in the 1930's and we did it in the 1940's. It's a well documented short term boost but it is really just Keynesian deficit spending on steroids. It is, however, Russia has the money to do it. Which is much different than the US. Over the past 20 years, we have really committed fiscal insanity in the USA. www.cbo.gov/publication/59711
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 22, 2024 12:02:27 GMT
The quickest way to turn an economy around is converting to a wartime economy. Hitler did it in the 1930's and we did it in the 1940's. It's a well documented short term boost but it is really just Keynesian deficit spending on steroids. It is, however, Russia has the money to do it. Which is much different than the US. Over the past 20 years, we have really committed fiscal insanity in the USA. www.cbo.gov/publication/59711Putin stock piled a bunch of gold before he invaded Ukraine and Russia is one of the biggest producers of the precious metal on the planet. So they have that going for them. But losing the biggest market for their oil and gas is going to hurt them and it won't be easy to find a replacement for that. One of the biggest problems with converting to a wartime economy is inflation. Currently at 9.1% in Russia (using their own numbers). That is going to hurt. Wars are not good for the economy and eventually the hens will come home to roost. North Korean troops will likely be the straw that breaks Ukraines back and Europe is going to have to make a decision on escalating the war with troops of their own or letting Putin take Kiev. Wild card in all of this is if Trump wins the election here he will likely push for a deal that cedes territory for peace. I don't think Ukraine will be in a position to turn down this settlement and the nation will be carved up. That is when the Russian economy will really hit skid row as they convert from a wartime economy to a peacetime one. The markets in Europe are gone for the remainder of Putin's life and China is in too poor of an economic position to pick up the slack.
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Post by justme on Oct 25, 2024 18:29:54 GMT
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Post by justme on Oct 25, 2024 18:44:33 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Oct 26, 2024 3:42:59 GMT
If I were Zelensky and I thought the proposed Russian-sponsored referendum for the Russian-controlled area of Ukraine was going to proceed, I might consider making an offer to the citizens of the area if they voted against the referendum.
First, I would offer to change some things which are particularly annoying to the Russian-speaking people in the area.
Secondly, I would offer to leave this area out of any potential agreement with NATO. While the area would remain part of Ukraine, NATO would not be responsible for its protection and it would be neutral with respect to NATO-Russia dealings.
It's looking like Trump could possibly be elected president in 10 days and he has claimed he can work with Putin to settle the Ukraine conflict. Two years ago in September 2022 I proposed (see above) that Zelesky should agree to making Eastern Ukraine a neutral area not subject to inclusion in a NATO protection agreement. Anyone have any thoughts on whether a Trump-Putin agreement is possible in the near term and, if so, what would it look like?
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Post by justme on Oct 27, 2024 16:11:41 GMT
1.5 year ago, Zelesnky and Ukrainian government officials claimed China's peace plan was capitulation, and the only solution was Ukraine's own 10 point peace plan. Now Ukrainian government officials are considering China's peace plan. The reality is Ukraine has been crushed. They will need to accept whatever terms Russia imposes on them. The 4 annexed oblasts + Crimea will be part of Russia. Ukraine will never join NATO, will be neutral, and have weapons limits for their military. Past the 4 oblasts, there may be a demilitarized zone on the Ukrainian side. Here is what alleged Chinese peace plan would look like (from 1.5 year ago):
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 29, 2024 2:51:03 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Oct 30, 2024 0:11:19 GMT
1.5 year ago, Zelesnky and Ukrainian government officials claimed China's peace plan was capitulation, and the only solution was Ukraine's own 10 point peace plan. Now Ukrainian government officials are considering China's peace plan. The reality is Ukraine has been crushed. They will need to accept whatever terms Russia imposes on them. The 4 annexed oblasts + Crimea will be part of Russia. Ukraine will never join NATO, will be neutral, and have weapons limits for their military. Past the 4 oblasts, there may be a demilitarized zone on the Ukrainian side. Here is what alleged Chinese peace plan would look like (from 1.5 year ago): If things are going so well in Ukraine for the diminutive little Russian Leprechaun then why does he need help from North Korea?
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Post by ratty on Oct 30, 2024 4:31:46 GMT
[ Snip ] If things are going so well in Ukraine for the diminutive little Russian Leprechaun then why does he need help from North Korea? You can't ask that!
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