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Post by Sigurdur on Apr 17, 2024 5:22:17 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Apr 17, 2024 11:11:06 GMT
Gloves are coming off as a coalition of nations are sending F16’s to Ukraine for the explicit purpose of attacking Russian infrastructure deep in the heart of Putin’s homeland.
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Post by justme on Apr 17, 2024 18:54:42 GMT
The House bill will likely be passed on Saturday. It is open for amendments. There could be some changes. Will likely be law by Saturday. 61 billion USD for Ukraine 26 billion USD for Israel 8 billion USD for Taiwan Out of the 61 billion USD for Ukraine. 23 billion USD to replenish US arsenals. 7.9 billion USD for the Ukrainian economy. Here is the full bill: t.co/YVN7RiPRYq
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Post by justme on Apr 17, 2024 19:18:42 GMT
If I were Biden, this bill would make me sweat.
What is the official Ukraine strategy going to be?
Additionally, the bill calls to send ATACMS. The USA already sent the version they deemed appropriate with respect to national security and escalation management.
Republicans have been hammered by the left over Ukraine aid. They can now say they were all in, and Biden was weak on Ukraine. This is going to be disaterous for Biden in several months.
It's disastrous for Ukraine. It is a win for the military industrial complex.
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Post by flearider on Apr 17, 2024 20:04:07 GMT
yeah it's not whats wanted by any means .. but there is a world war brewing and i can't see it stopping eu will move against russia .. very bad mistake we just don't have the troops ... and Israel will hit iran just to prove a point .. and both will need the usa ..and to be honest i don't want to see anyone's kids die .. at 58 i just see it all as a stupid game ... are we not passed this ? .. with my tin foil hat on .. it's just another way to reduce the population ... and we don't need that cause we are not having kids (20-30) yr olds that is .. what we got .. 2-6 months unless someone backs down ... be safe the nukes may still come about ..
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 17, 2024 21:19:50 GMT
If I were Biden, this bill would make me sweat. What is the official Ukraine strategy going to be? Additionally, the bill calls to send ATACMS. The USA already sent the version they deemed appropriate with respect to national security and escalation management. Republicans have been hammered by the left over Ukraine aid. They can now say they were all in, and Biden was weak on Ukraine. This is going to be disaterous for Biden in several months. It's disastrous for Ukraine. It is a win for the military industrial complex. Absolutely. I'm not proud of this administration and the Democrat Industrial Complex - only slight difference from the Republican Industrial Complex. I'm still rooting for the slightly westernized Ukrainian crooks over the Russian crooks. Divide it based on ethnic preference. Putins latest pronouncement said that the Kiev bastards were gonna have to surrender. So there you have it.
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Post by justme on Apr 18, 2024 13:06:19 GMT
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Post by justme on Apr 19, 2024 14:42:58 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/drone-and-missile-warfare-tests-supply-strapped-defense-systems/ar-BB1lKs8VThe companies that produce these weapons are private companies. They are obligated by shareholders to maximize profits. The model is to manufacturer high tech weapons at a slow rate. This leads to scarcity and high prices. Any excess fat, such as extra manufacturing and industrial facilities were closed long ago. Many materials and services are also outsourced to maximize profits. Russia and China do not have this issue. France and several other European countries already reiterated they can not give up any air defense due to national security reasons. Emmanuel Macron:
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 19, 2024 20:31:27 GMT
yeah it's not whats wanted by any means .. but there is a world war brewing and i can't see it stopping eu will move against russia .. very bad mistake we just don't have the troops ... and Israel will hit iran just to prove a point .. and both will need the usa ..and to be honest i don't want to see anyone's kids die .. at 58 i just see it all as a stupid game ... are we not passed this ? .. with my tin foil hat on .. it's just another way to reduce the population ... and we don't need that cause we are not having kids (20-30) yr olds that is .. what we got .. 2-6 months unless someone backs down ... be safe the nukes may still come about .. We have not changed in recorded history. And probably before that. Somebody always wants what somebody else has ... sometimes both at once. I don't remember many exceptions. The Swiss held out in their mountains and sold to everybody. Mr Clemons was right. There is not a square foot of land that is still in the hands of its original rightful owners.
I see no reason to believe that episode will be any different.
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Post by justme on Apr 19, 2024 22:30:33 GMT
IMF updated their GDP numbers. Several months ago: Now: They raised Russia's GDP growth from 2023 by a further .6 percent. Additionally, they raised 2024 by .6 percent, and 2025 by .4 percent. Meanwhile most countries in the west saw a decrease. The United States also saw an increase.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 20, 2024 3:44:46 GMT
Low base and against a very loose monetary policy much of the change will be grief in the future.
The inflation in Russia is a signal of trouble because saving evaporates in the community when that emerges.
Crowing about the economic performance of Russia is a difficult route to follow.
We in NZ have experienced the work of the Russian trained economic talents from our departed Prime Minister entering the NZ Parliament while she was the leader of the Youth socialists a Russian funded group. We are enjoying her financial wizardry, very much out of the same play book as Putin's. It has a sad ending for the people.
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Post by ratty on Apr 20, 2024 8:03:32 GMT
Low base and against a very loose monetary policy much of the change will be grief in the future. The inflation in Russia is a signal of trouble because saving evaporates in the community when that emerges. Crowing about the economic performance of Russia is a difficult route to follow. We in NZ have experienced the work of the Russian trained economic talents from our departed Prime Minister entering the NZ Parliament while she was the leader of the Youth socialists a Russian funded group. We are enjoying her financial wizardry, very much out of the same play book as Putin's. It has a sad ending for the people. In every iteration.
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Post by glennkoks on Apr 20, 2024 14:45:04 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Apr 20, 2024 20:31:35 GMT
A couple of comments.....
The youtuber talks about how bad it will be for Russia when they return to peacetime operations because the economy will have to rebuild itself from military-industrial to a peace-time economy like the US did after WWII. Actually, I thought the US did quite well in the post war period, leaving the Great Depression forever behind.
Also, he doesn't mention debt. In 2022 the US central government debt was 121% of GDP while Russia's debt was 20% of GDP. It's probably up some from that level now. But there would seem to be some room for Russia to spend on rebuilding and stimulating their economy after the conflict is over before they go bankrupt. And their debt load is surely nothing like what faced the US at the end of WWII.
There has been some problem with Russia repaying their foreign debt recently, but as I recall that was due to the US and others blocking Russian access to dollars to repay the debt rather than an unwillingness or inability to pay the interest due.
I'm not in any way an expert on Russia, but I'm always leery of policies based on wishful thinking.
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Post by glennkoks on Apr 21, 2024 0:34:38 GMT
A couple of comments.....
The youtuber talks about how bad it will be for Russia when they return to peacetime operations because the economy will have to rebuild itself from military-industrial to a peace-time economy like the US did after WWII. Actually, I thought the US did quite well in the post war period, leaving the Great Depression forever behind.
Also, he doesn't mention debt. In 2022 the US central government debt was 121% of GDP while Russia's debt was 20% of GDP. It's probably up some from that level now. But there would seem to be some room for Russia to spend on rebuilding and stimulating their economy after the conflict is over before they go bankrupt. And their debt load is surely nothing like what faced the US at the end of WWII.
There has been some problem with Russia repaying their foreign debt recently, but as I recall that was due to the US and others blocking Russian access to dollars to repay the debt rather than an unwillingness or inability to pay the interest due.
I'm not in any way an expert on Russia, but I'm always leery of policies based on wishful thinking.
The US did well post WWII mainly because they were the only economy left standing. In addition the economic policy established at Bretton Woods in 1944 help set up the USD as the worlds reserve currency which is an incredible advantage. Russia will have none of these benefits and still be facing headwinds against economic sanctions.
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