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Post by duwayne on Aug 30, 2024 13:23:36 GMT
Is there a way to retrieve this chart from last year? |
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Post by ratty on Aug 30, 2024 22:11:03 GMT
Is there a way to retrieve this chart from last year? There is a "Choose Date" beside menu option "Control" .... earth.nullschool.net/#2023/08/29/1200Z/ocean/surface/currents/overlay=sea_surface_temp_anomaly/orthographic Take screenshots of now and then and combine the images? |
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 31, 2024 12:43:13 GMT
Is there a way to retrieve this chart from last year? Yes. I just opened the legend and changed the year to 2023. If you change the year to 2015 you see something interesting. That was the year of the cold "bubble" in the N. Atlantic. Note the negative Atlantic Nina. Just sayin!
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 31, 2024 14:15:04 GMT
KUDOS Duwayne. Tying / linking the ends of observations from which Nobels and/or fortunes are/could be made. Occasionally, God throws crumbs in the path of insightful people to save our sorry asses from stupidity and charlatans. The Mannish SS will oppose this with true desperation, as, if it's true, their thesis is stone-cold dead. It brings together elements of past theses ... a cold Arctic vortex that occasionally drains southward ... and sets up shop in the Eastern Tropical Atlantic ... where, at a minimum, it modifies tropical air masses that shape northwestern European weather (climate). And perhaps NEastern N America as well.
Have you talked to the Trump campaign? How far would whatever is left of the supposed $93 trillion in the green new deal go toward modifying - eliminating the US debt? Trump might like that ... but would it be lost on the voters?
Wiggle-watch update. A leak in the ocean?
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Post by duwayne on Aug 31, 2024 15:21:46 GMT
Concerning the Null School graphs: If you change the time in a series of selections, say start with the current month, then step back by month to January, then step back each screen by using your browser stepper, you can quickly walk through the changes over a period of time.
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Post by Sigurdur on Sept 6, 2024 20:02:19 GMT
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Post by duwayne on Sept 24, 2024 21:25:14 GMT
Wiggle-watch update. A leak in the ocean?
This chart hasn't been updated for a while and I think I might know why. (Note: This chart updates automatically and has now been updated since the original post. As I expected might be the case, the sea level continued to decline as of 910/2024, and there was a hesitancy to update. We'll see what happens with later updates. Posted on 10/24/2024 )
The Chartist obviously was trying to convince you that there was a major acceleration in sea level rise from 2.1 mm/yr 25 years ago to double that rate in recent years to 4.2 mm/yr. But the recent decline in sea level is bringing that into question which would seem to require a modification to the chart.
Interestingly, now if you just draw a straight trendline through all of the data, it doesn't look all that bad. You certainly don't see a doubling of the rate of sea level rise in recent years.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 4, 2024 14:02:22 GMT
Nikolov and Zeller: Analysis showing Earth’s climate is driven by Sun and cloud albedo now published
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Post by ratty on Oct 16, 2024 23:09:22 GMT
I came across this and thought it might be useful as the basis of a counter argument in some context, sometime, somewhere ... not fact checked!
CAUSES OF NATURAL CLIMATE CHANGE…… by James Mcgrath, retired engineer.
IF YOU THINK HUMANS CAN CONTROL CLIMATE, HERE ARE SOME OF THE NATURAL CAUSES THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO OVERCOME:
NATURES EFFECTS:
1. VARIATIONS IN SOLAR INPUTS, especially SUNSPOTS - Every 11 years elevated sunspot activity occurs on the Sun and is transmitted to earth as heat.
2. PRECESSION - The Earth's axis moves in a cycle that lasts 26,000 years during which time it varies by 23 degrees from the neutral axis which is perpendicular to the Suns rays. This changes the locations of deserts and forests.
3. ECCENTRICITY OF EARTHS ORBIT - Changes the distance from the Sun to Earth. This varies the amount of heat the Earth receives from the sun. It warms and cools the Earth, relatively. Called the Milankovich Cycle.
4. METEORS OR COMETS - Are plentiful but every so often can cause devastating changes in the Earth when they impact. One has been blamed for the extinction of the Dinosaurs at least in part.
5. VOLCANOS - Caused by tectonic plate movements, occur in unpredictable ways and have been known to create extreme global temperature variations. The eruption of Tambura caused the 1815 "Year without a Summer" with effects that lasted 3 years. There are approximately 1500 active volcanoes, 500 of which have erupted in modern times, and 60 of which are currently active in approx. 60 countries around the world. Yellowstone is a Super volcano that will really change the climate when it blows again…….. SUBMARINE VOLCANOS , or Seamounts, of which there are about 120 that have erupted in modern times, create about 75% of the magma of the Earth and also heat the oceans. Added by Stuart Munro. These Volcanos and Vents also release huge amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. Added by Oakley Howell.
6. SHIFTS IN THE EARTH'S MOLTEN CORE…. In unpredictable ways, changes the magnetic poles and moves them approximately 35 miles per year, and can lead to pole reversals every 7000 years.
7. GULFSTREAM (ancillary)- And other currents are generally consistent but variations of hundreds of miles can cause huge environmental changes.
8. JET STREAM SHIFTS (ancillary). They move heat energy in unpredictable ways.
9. INTERMITTENT INTERACTING CYCLES (ancillary) El Nina, El Nino, Atlantic Multi-Decadal, Pacific Multi-Decadal, Arctic/Antarctic and Madden-Julian Oscillations, etal. Periodic variable Warming and Cooling effects of atmosphere and water throughout the world. Added by Jim Mundy.*
10. UNPREDICTABLE ICE AGES (ancillary).
11. CONTINENTAL DRIFT - over the very long term.
12. MOON - Gravity sucks on all parts of the ocean and land and has world wide effects but localized based upon its immediate position. Added by Alecia Schmidt.
DID I MISS ANYTHING?
AS TO GLOBAL WARMING……….. The only measurements I have found are from NASA. They say that the Earth has warmed 1.53 deg F (+/- ?deg tolerance) since 1880. That is 142 years.
THE PRESUMPTIONS OF WARMERS ARE: 1. That this trend will continue forever; and 2. That man caused this heating problem; and, 3. That man can cool down the earth. They further discount the evidence of the history of recorded weather that show that changes are natural and cannot be shown to be caused by humans*. They are so certain of this that they are willing to spend trillions of dollars on these prognostications that are ruining our economy. …
Anthropogenic global warming is a guess, upon a guess, upon a guess ........ and needs to be stopped.
This blind belief in Anthropogenic climate change, and that humans can change weather, is at the core of our fall from prosperity. because of the attacks on the oil industry, we have lost our independence to Saudi Arabia and Russia. our gas prices have skyrocketed. Saudi Arabia makes money and Russia/Putin makes the energy money to make war. because of blind spending on failed energy producers, like wind and solar, trillions have been spent to make us more inefficient. That does nothing but feed inflation ............ this needs to stop ........... soon.
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Post by blustnmtn on Oct 16, 2024 23:50:03 GMT
Whoever wrote that synopsis of natural causes for continuous climate change should be right at home here on our little forum.
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Post by ratty on Oct 17, 2024 21:54:45 GMT
Whoever wrote that synopsis of natural causes for continuous climate change should be right at home here on our little forum. He's been invited but hasn't responded. |
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Post by tyrbiter on Oct 18, 2024 23:14:31 GMT
This is a fairly useful explanation of warming, or more accurately not really warming: www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-101/Spencer has spent considerable time working for NASA, so he's a useful counter to people who tell you that NASA says the planet is boiling. |
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 24, 2024 2:15:46 GMT
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 24, 2024 15:04:43 GMT
archive.is/dtGSY“It doesn’t take as much to get to a billion dollars now than it did 20 years ago,” Ross said. “If a storm hiccups, it gets a billion dollars’ worth of damage now, whereas 20 years ago, it took a lot more than a hiccup to do it.”
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Post by ratty on Oct 25, 2024 0:59:44 GMT
archive.is/dtGSY“It doesn’t take as much to get to a billion dollars now than it did 20 years ago,” Ross said. “If a storm hiccups, it gets a billion dollars’ worth of damage now, whereas 20 years ago, it took a lot more than a hiccup to do it.” More buildings, more infrastructure, more people and most of them want to live near rivers or the sea. |
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