CO2 and the Climate

[Sigurdur]

True.

[Sigurdur]

open.substack.com/pub/rogerpielkejr/p/jaws-of-the-snake?r=mvtzy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Policy making involves choosing among alternative possible courses of action in order to achieve desired outcomes. Policy analysis maps the consequences of decision alternatives and where they might take us. Both policy making and policy analysis have politics because people don’t always agree on where we should be headed, the means to achieve desired ends, and our maps of the terrain that we use to get from here to there.

[missouriboy]

Here they come again.  Biden's leading(?) the charge.

www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/who-s-to-blame-for-climate-change-scientists-don-t-hold-back-in-new-federal-report/ar-AA1jU10Y?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=341aec4a7a784a0184ee5d9a2787e9d2&ei=46

[missouriboy]

Nov 13, 2023 16:28:51 GMT Sigurdur said:

open.substack.com/pub/rogerpielkejr/p/jaws-of-the-snake?r=mvtzy&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Policy making involves choosing among alternative possible courses of action in order to achieve desired outcomes. Policy analysis maps the consequences of decision alternatives and where they might take us. Both policy making and policy analysis have politics because people don’t always agree on where we should be headed, the means to achieve desired ends, and our maps of the terrain that we use to get from here to there.

The point at which the "jaws of the snake" open may be a bit lower than what is shown.  Even with the current lower troposphere up-tic, theoretically due to water vapor injection into the stratosphere from the Hunga Tonga eruption, the current lower troposphere global temperature anomaly stands at 0.9 C. ... in comparison to the chart baseline of about 1.4 C.  The former is 0.5C warmer than before the eruption ... thus making the difference between model "takeoff" point and UAH temps about 1.0 C.  We should be dead by now?

[Sigurdur]

Some keep hoping that is happening.

[ratty]

Nov 15, 2023 20:04:40 GMT Sigurdur said:

Some keep hoping that is happening.

Dismal Jimmys.

[ratty]

Nov 15, 2023 18:20:55 GMT missouriboy said:

Here they come again.  Biden's leading(?) the charge.

www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/who-s-to-blame-for-climate-change-scientists-don-t-hold-back-in-new-federal-report/ar-AA1jU10Y?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=341aec4a7a784a0184ee5d9a2787e9d2&ei=46

The cult has gone into overdrive here too.

[blustnmtn]

“A peer-reviewed study recently published in the journal Global Ecology and Conservation underscored that "global greening is an indisputable fact" and has accelerated over the past 20 years across over 55% of the globe.”

www.theblaze.com/news/new-peer-reviewed-study-points-out-the-obvious-carbon-emissions-are-feeding-plants-and-greening-the-planet

[blustnmtn]

From Dr. Spencer:

www.drroyspencer.com/2024/04/unnecessary-net-zero-part-ii-a-demonstration-with-global-carbon-project-data/

"I continue to be perplexed why Net Zero is a goal, because it is not based upon the science. I can only assume that the scientific community’s silence on the subject is because politically driven energy policy goals are driving the science, rather than vice versa."

[blustnmtn]

You all should take a look at this paper. It's a good one!

"The premise of this study is that the climatic system is very complex and subject to perpetual change due to numerous processes, either internal or external to it. The fact that one of them, namely the relationship of climate with atmospheric CO2, is highlighted in the last decades does not correspond to its actual importance as a climate driver. The promoted importance is a non-scientific issue, related to the narrative that humans, through their emissions by fossil fuel burning, are responsible for the changes we see in climate."

www.aimspress.com/article/doi/10.3934/mbe.2024287

[ratty]

Aug 2, 2024 15:30:17 GMT blustnmtn said:

You all should take a look at this paper. It's a good one!

"The premise of this study is that the climatic system is very complex and subject to perpetual change due to numerous processes, either internal or external to it. The fact that one of them, namely the relationship of climate with atmospheric CO2, is highlighted in the last decades does not correspond to its actual importance as a climate driver. The promoted importance is a non-scientific issue, related to the narrative that humans, through their emissions by fossil fuel burning, are responsible for the changes we see in climate."

www.aimspress.com/article/doi/10.3934/mbe.2024287

The Climate Establishment's response: Be wary of Greeks bearing gifts.

[blustnmtn]

www.zerohedge.com/weather/sunlight-and-clouds-not-co2-drive-earths-climate-shocking-new-study-finds

[ratty]

Select the 'English' option when you open the Norwegian website ....

Historically, there are no connections between CO2 and temperature.

In this presentation, Javier Vinós presents evidence that CO 2 and temperature have never followed each other as a cause or effect, but are both driven by several 3rd factors. By presenting known data on a scale to show correlation ( scatterplot ), we get the complete opposite of today's assumptions. In fact, there is no correlation in our historical data to show that one follows the other as a causal relationship.

[ratty]

One Aussie parliamentarian with the guts to say it our loud ...

For Warri

[missouriboy]

Nikolov and Zeller: Analysis showing Earth’s climate is driven by Sun and cloud albedo now published

tallbloke.wordpress.com/