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Post by blustnmtn on Jul 4, 2021 20:32:42 GMT
Without rigorous evidence, I assert that we in Vancouver BC have had a relatively cool year overall (currently 22C at our house away from the water), and that the 'brutal' temperatures lasted less than a week. Lytton and Osoyoos BC flirt with 40C every summer, and are the closest to 'desert' that we have in Canada I think. Tony Heller debunks the media hype with old archives on a regular basis. In particular, the 1930’s were hot. Regardless of the efforts to “correct” the temperature record by cooling those temps and increasing recent temps. Not to mention UHI which is a big wild card. realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/2019-06-20025642_shadow.jpg |
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Post by code on Jul 5, 2021 3:27:46 GMT
In Saudi it was said, that by law, construction workers (mostly 3rd World laborers) were to be allow to stop work when temperatures reached 45C. Backs aching for the lash |
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Post by walnut on Jul 5, 2021 4:40:32 GMT
Code, I was trying to reply to your post regarding Granville Island, my reply didn't appear formatted right, I tried to edit it, but I managed to delete it instead. Sorry  |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 5, 2021 5:56:54 GMT
In Saudi it was said, that by law, construction workers (mostly 3rd World laborers) were to be allow to stop work when temperatures reached 45C. Backs aching for the lash The Saudis often treated their contracted fellow Muslims rather poorly. There was a very definite national pecking order in the work place. Americans and Western Europeans were at the top (below the Saudis of course) and it went downhill from there. There was a young Bangladeshi Tea Boy whose sole job was to make and bring the tea whenever it was required. Very fair skined with blue eyes ... could have passed for the fairest of the fair in the West. Spoke English fluently and his meager salary went home to support the family. Said I looked like his older brother. I said that I was not acquainted with that line of the family, but if he cared to introduce me, I'd be honored. We both had a good laugh. He too was treated rather disrespectfully I thought. |
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Post by ratty on Jul 5, 2021 7:38:55 GMT
Without rigorous evidence, I assert that we in Vancouver BC have had a relatively cool year overall (currently 22C at our house away from the water), and that the 'brutal' temperatures lasted less than a week. Lytton and Osoyoos BC flirt with 40C every summer, and are the closest to 'desert' that we have in Canada I think. Lytton sounds akin to our Marble Bar. |
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Post by walnut on Jul 5, 2021 13:59:30 GMT
Without rigorous evidence, I assert that we in Vancouver BC have had a relatively cool year overall (currently 22C at our house away from the water), and that the 'brutal' temperatures lasted less than a week. Lytton and Osoyoos BC flirt with 40C every summer, and are the closest to 'desert' that we have in Canada I think. Lytton sounds akin to our Marble Bar. Ratty, how would people have lived around Marble Bar before A/C? Must have been miserable. |
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Post by blustnmtn on Jul 5, 2021 14:08:26 GMT
Ratty, how would people have lived around Marble Bar before A/C? Must have been miserable. Convicts were sent Down Under for a reason Walnut. |
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Post by ratty on Jul 5, 2021 17:00:56 GMT
Ratty, how would people have lived around Marble Bar before A/C? Must have been miserable. We arewere a tough lot.... |
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 1, 2021 18:23:59 GMT
UAH global troposhere temperature anomaly for August drops to 0.17C (after a rise in July). Lacking a delay in the progression of the second phase of La Nina, I expect an increasingly negative UAH anomaly through Spring of 2022 challenging the UAH global minimums of 2007-08 and 2010-11 at levels of -0.4 to -0.5 C. This would represent a decline in the UAH global anomaly of about -1.5 C from its high of +1 C in early 2016.
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Post by ratty on Sept 1, 2021 22:55:42 GMT
UAH global troposhere temperature anomaly for August drops to 0.17C (after a rise in July). Lacking a delay in the progression of the second phase of La Nina, I expect an increasingly negative UAH anomaly through Spring of 2022 challenging the UAH global minimums of 2007-08 and 2010-11 at levels of -0.4 to -0.5 C. This would represent a decline in the UAH global anomaly of about -1.5 C from its high of +1 C in early 2016. Silly question: How is zero on the y axis determined? Be kind .... |
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 2, 2021 0:04:54 GMT
UAH global troposhere temperature anomaly for August drops to 0.17C (after a rise in July). Lacking a delay in the progression of the second phase of La Nina, I expect an increasingly negative UAH anomaly through Spring of 2022 challenging the UAH global minimums of 2007-08 and 2010-11 at levels of -0.4 to -0.5 C. This would represent a decline in the UAH global anomaly of about -1.5 C from its high of +1 C in early 2016. Silly question: How is zero on the y axis determined? Be kind .... Zero is the mean anomaly value for the base period (base period mean - base period mean) ... which is subtracted from individual observations to get the anomaly for each measurement point. Anomaly = deviation from base period.  |
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Post by neilhamp on Sept 2, 2021 7:15:15 GMT
Hi Ratty,
The base period does not always remain the same.
UAH recently changed their base period
"We have changed the 30-year averaging period from which we compute anomalies to 1991-2020, from the old period 1981-2010.
This change does not affect the temperature trends."
The base periods for the different temperature records are not same.
I had cause to write to the UK Met Office because the new HadCRUT5 temperatures seemed to be running "hotter" than HadCRUT4.
They confirmed that HadCRUT5 uses a 1961-90 reference period, the same as HadCRUT4.
When the IPCC quote their "alarm point temperature" of 1.5 degrees this refers to a base period of "pre-industrial times" (1850-1900)
I don't know what base period GISS use
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Post by blustnmtn on Sept 2, 2021 12:56:36 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 2, 2021 16:58:51 GMT
Without rigorous evidence, I assert that we in Vancouver BC have had a relatively cool year overall (currently 22C at our house away from the water), and that the 'brutal' temperatures lasted less than a week. Lytton and Osoyoos BC flirt with 40C every summer, and are the closest to 'desert' that we have in Canada I think. Keep up a scare. |
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Post by blustnmtn on Sept 7, 2021 23:20:48 GMT
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