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Post by missouriboy on Nov 23, 2021 19:23:29 GMT
Arctic ice gaining leaps and bounds Antarctic not so much..... At that rate we should be revisiting the 1990s by December? The silence should be deafening.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 11, 2021 7:46:10 GMT
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Post by pbfoot on Dec 11, 2021 12:47:19 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Dec 13, 2021 15:06:23 GMT
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Post by neilhamp on Jan 6, 2022 17:24:15 GMT
The Arctic Sea Ice Extent seems to have recovered through 2021 The position of the sea ice extent above the minimum has risen from 7th lowest in January 2021 to 16th lowest in January 2022. The sea ice extent compared to the average for the decade from 2010 to 2019 is shown in the last two columns. Last 5 months of 2021 all exceed the average for the decade of 2010's Just updated the January data to include current situation for Jan.10th 2022. Will the trend continue through 2022? It is worth noting that the sea ice extent in January 2012 was 89.111 Sq.Km GREATER than January 2022, yet it still resulted in the lowest ever September minimum Date | Position | Position | Difference from 2010's avge. | Difference from 2010's avge. |
| 2021 | 2022 | 2021 (Sq.Km.) | 2022 (Sq.Km.) | Jan 31st. | 7th | 14th | +79,452 | +220,388 | Feb.28th. | 7th |
| -75,322 |
| Mar.31st | 6th |
| -296,133 |
| Apr.30th | 9th |
| +1,632 |
| May.31st | 7th |
| +64,174 |
| Jun.30th | 6th |
| -119,772 |
| Jul.31st | 5th |
| -147,168 |
| Aug.31st | 11th |
| +410,141 |
| Sep.30th | 10th |
| +146,162 |
| Oct.31st | 10th |
| +226,537 |
| Nov.30th | 10th |
| +87,589 |
| Dec.30 | 14th |
| +302,161 |
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Post by Sigurdur on Jan 6, 2022 17:33:01 GMT
The Arctic Sea Ice Extent seems to have recovered through 2021 The position of the sea ice extent above the minimum recorded has risen from 7th in January to 14th in December. The sea ice extent compared to the average for the decade from 2010 to 2019 is shown in the last column. Will this trend continue through 2022? Date - Position - Difference from 2010's average Jan 31st 7th. +79,452 Feb.28th 7th -75,332 Mar.31st. 6th -296,133 Apr.30th. 9th +1632 May.31st. 7th +64,174 Jun.30th. 6th -119,772 July.31st. 5th -147,168 Aug.31st. 11th +410,141 Sep.30th. 10th +146,162 Oct.31st. 10th +226,537 Nov.30th. 10th +87,589 Dec.30th. 14th +302,161 Yes
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Post by neilhamp on Jan 6, 2022 18:42:48 GMT
Sig,
I have decided to update the data through 2022. It might be more constructive than the Nenanah Ice Classic
Have you a reason for your, brief, but confident reply?
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Post by Sigurdur on Jan 7, 2022 3:47:54 GMT
Sig, I have decided to update the data through 2022. It might be more constructive than the Nenanah Ice Classic Have you a reason for your, brief, but confident reply? 1. Solar cycles, the long look. 2. Solar influences the placement of the Polar Vortex. It remains tight. 3. The level of sea ice observed by Capt Larsen in his log book. Reconstructions do not match his observations. 4. The ice increase, until the recent decrease. I had read a paper years ago about long term Arctic ice cycles. Went back through the MWP based on whale bones. Whales have to have open water to breath. Was a convincing paper.
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Post by neilhamp on Jan 7, 2022 10:34:08 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Jan 7, 2022 14:18:02 GMT
I just looked at Climate4you a few days ago and was going to reference it to this thread. I also believe the AMO is going south and is indicative if not causal with regard to the northern ice state. We shall see.
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Post by neilhamp on Jan 8, 2022 8:13:53 GMT
Hi blust, Nice to know somebody is also watching AMO The trouble is there is no sign of AMO starting to fall Last three months all in excess of 0.4 When will it drop below zero?
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Post by blustnmtn on Jan 8, 2022 14:32:01 GMT
Hi blust, Nice to know somebody is also watching AMO The trouble is there is no sign of AMO starting to fall Last three months all in excess of 0.4 When will it drop below zero? We need to have the patience of a tree when watching the AMO cycle.
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Post by neilhamp on Jan 17, 2022 8:05:09 GMT
The position of the sea ice extent above the minimum has risen from 7th lowest in January 2021 to 15th lowest in January 2022 (so far). The sea ice extent compared to the average for the decade from 2010 to 2019 is shown in the last two columns. Just updated the January data to include current situation for Jan.25th 2022. The sea ice extent has exceed the 2010's average for the sixth successive month. Will this trend continue through 2022? Date | Position | Position | Difference from 2010's Avge | Diference from 2010's Avge |
| 2021 | 2022 | 2021 (sq.Km.) | 2022 (sq.Km.) | Jan 31st. | 7th. | 15th. | +79,452 | +234,733 |
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Post by ratty on Jan 17, 2022 12:12:53 GMT
The position of the sea ice extent above the minimum has risen from 7th lowest in January 2021 to 14th lowest in January 2022 (so far). The sea ice extent compared to the average for the decade from 2010 to 2019 is shown in the last two columns. Just updated the January data to include current situation for Jan.16th 2022. Will the trend continue through 2022? It is worth noting that the sea ice extent in January 2012 was 89.111 Sq.Km GREATER than January 2022, yet it still resulted in the lowest ever September minimum Date | Position | Position | Difference from 2010's Avge | Diference from 2010's Avge |
| 2021 | 2022 | 2021 (sq.Km.) | 2022 (sq.Km.) | Jan 31st. | 7th. | 14th. | +79,452 | +220,388 |
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2012 was a freak year, with an Arctic 'cyclone' the cause of the low ice, IIRC?
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Post by Sigurdur on Jan 17, 2022 14:23:24 GMT
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