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AMOC
Sept 27, 2023 20:18:19 GMT
Post by glennkoks on Sept 27, 2023 20:18:19 GMT
A new study published in Nature Journal "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" is stirring up quite a bit of chatter on the internet. Study seems to indicate the AMOC will likely collapse somewhere between 2025 and 2095 in what will likely be another Dansgaard-Oeschger event. www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-w |
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AMOC
Sept 27, 2023 20:28:53 GMT
Post by nonentropic on Sept 27, 2023 20:28:53 GMT
Is this not a product of the Saharan winds that drive the sea currents north and south in the Atlantic but in varying quantities.
So a cold Antarctic which we have had but it seems has changed, will see the Arctic cool in the near future if it has indeed flipped.
Lets see.
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Post by ratty on Sept 27, 2023 23:22:07 GMT
" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 " I'll let you know a forwarding address when I'm sure which way I'm headed.  |
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Post by glennkoks on Sept 28, 2023 1:26:24 GMT
" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 " I'll let you know a forwarding address when I'm sure which way I'm headed. Tomorrow is promised to no-one but I'm counting on you and me both being here in 2025! We can leave our kids a chainsaw and a wood burning stove should the AMOC shutdown as late as 2095... |
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AMOC
Sept 28, 2023 1:29:26 GMT
Post by glennkoks on Sept 28, 2023 1:29:26 GMT
Is this not a product of the Saharan winds that drive the sea currents north and south in the Atlantic but in varying quantities. So a cold Antarctic which we have had but it seems has changed, will see the Arctic cool in the near future if it has indeed flipped. Lets see. According to the study it is a product of the rapid warming of the arctic over a decadal period releasing vast amounts of cold, freshwater into the North Atlantic disrupting ocean currents. It's happened before many times and it seems likely it will happen again. If you subscribe to AGW theory our burning of fossil fuels may make simply make this happen sooner than it would otherwise... Interesting thing for me with this paper is the math behind it narrowing it down to a geologic timestamp. |
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Sept 28, 2023 4:30:56 GMT
Post by flearider on Sept 28, 2023 4:30:56 GMT
Is this not a product of the Saharan winds that drive the sea currents north and south in the Atlantic but in varying quantities. So a cold Antarctic which we have had but it seems has changed, will see the Arctic cool in the near future if it has indeed flipped. Lets see. According to the study it is a product of the rapid warming of the arctic over a decadal period releasing vast amounts of cold, freshwater into the North Atlantic disrupting ocean currents. It's happened before many times and it seems likely it will happen again. If you subscribe to AGW theory our burning of fossil fuels may make simply make this happen sooner than it would otherwise... Interesting thing for me with this paper is the math behind it narrowing it down to a geologic timestamp. yes it will happen by 2025 .. beauford gyre .. is/will release soon .. thats a hell of a lot of fresh water .. and thus starts another ice age ... www.nature.com/articles/s41561-023-01184-5 |
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Post by ratty on Sept 28, 2023 4:31:24 GMT
" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 " I'll let you know a forwarding address when I'm sure which way I'm headed. Tomorrow is promised to no-one but I'm counting on you and me both being here in 2025! We can leave our kids a chainsaw and a wood burning stove should the AMOC shutdown as late as 2095... I'll be an octogenarian in 2025 so ....  |
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 28, 2023 14:21:22 GMT
" somewhere between 2025 and 2095 " I'll let you know a forwarding address when I'm sure which way I'm headed. Tomorrow is promised to no-one but I'm counting on you and me both being here in 2025! We can leave our kids a chainsaw and a wood burning stove should the AMOC shutdown as late as 2095... You may want to substitute axes, saws and wedges for the chainsaw. |
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Sept 28, 2023 14:24:21 GMT
Post by walnut on Sept 28, 2023 14:24:21 GMT
Tomorrow is promised to no-one but I'm counting on you and me both being here in 2025! We can leave our kids a chainsaw and a wood burning stove should the AMOC shutdown as late as 2095... You may want to substitute axes, saws and wedges for the chainsaw. Gasoline will be a quaint historical footnote |
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Sept 28, 2023 14:58:32 GMT
Post by missouriboy on Sept 28, 2023 14:58:32 GMT
A new study published in Nature Journal "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" is stirring up quite a bit of chatter on the internet. Study seems to indicate the AMOC will likely collapse somewhere between 2025 and 2095 in what will likely be another Dansgaard-Oeschger event. www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-wIf you look carefully at the maps in the article, you will note there has been a major shift in the direction of the index.   |
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Sept 28, 2023 16:52:30 GMT
A new study published in Nature Journal "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" is stirring up quite a bit of chatter on the internet. Study seems to indicate the AMOC will likely collapse somewhere between 2025 and 2095 in what will likely be another Dansgaard-Oeschger event. www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-wIsn't this the same mechanism that caused the Younger Dryas? |
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Sept 28, 2023 17:10:47 GMT
Post by glennkoks on Sept 28, 2023 17:10:47 GMT
A new study published in Nature Journal "Warning of a forthcoming collapse of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation" is stirring up quite a bit of chatter on the internet. Study seems to indicate the AMOC will likely collapse somewhere between 2025 and 2095 in what will likely be another Dansgaard-Oeschger event. www.nature.com/articles/s41467-023-39810-wIsn't this the same mechanism that caused the Younger Dryas? I am not sure there seems to be some overlap or possible connection between the Beaufort Gyre, Dansgaard-Oeschger, Heinrich and Bond events. Perhaps when the Beaufort Gyre releases its freshwater into the North Atlantic it can (but not always) lead to the other more severe events tipping the scale to various degrees. I find the sudden warming leading up to these events seems very similar to the warming we are currently experiencing and perhaps not as "man made" as some would have us believe. Perhaps we are having a role and it is speeding the freshwater melt in the arctic that will ultimately be the straw that breaks the camels back. I also find it very interesting that these researchers have narrowed it down to a very specific timeline. Between 2025 and 2095. |
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Post by acidohm on Sept 29, 2023 4:57:57 GMT
Soon enough to be be scared, long enough to keep it scary.
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AMOC
Sept 29, 2023 15:10:14 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Sept 29, 2023 15:10:14 GMT
Isn't this the same mechanism that caused the Younger Dryas? I am not sure there seems to be some overlap or possible connection between the Beaufort Gyre, Dansgaard-Oeschger, Heinrich and Bond events. Perhaps when the Beaufort Gyre releases its freshwater into the North Atlantic it can (but not always) lead to the other more severe events tipping the scale to various degrees. I find the sudden warming leading up to these events seems very similar to the warming we are currently experiencing and perhaps not as "man made" as some would have us believe. Perhaps we are having a role and it is speeding the freshwater melt in the arctic that will ultimately be the straw that breaks the camels back. I also find it very interesting that these researchers have narrowed it down to a very specific timeline. Between 2025 and 2095. Safely outside of their expected retirement range. |
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