The race for the Presidency

[missouriboy]

Nov 6, 2024 19:21:56 GMT walnut said:

www.cnn.com/2024/09/24/politics/polls-trump-harris-presidential-election/index.html

No consequences for phony polls?

You betcha!  We are democrat data guys.  We can bend, slant and butcher the truth with the best of them.  Got our degrees from the Goebbels school of truth.

[walnut]

www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/media/trump-reelection-media-credibility-trust/index.html
It's not that we're not reading it. It's because we don't believe or trust it.

[ratty]

Written before the result ....

They still don’t get it

They still don’t get it.

Eight years after Donald Trump was first elected president of the United States of America, the elites remain mystified that such an anomaly could occur. They still view his voters less as rational beings to be engaged with than as a far-flung tribe to be studied. They still approach this curious horde – if they approach it at all – as a Victorian anthropologist might have approached a pre-modern people in the densest forests of Africa. ‘I went to CPAC as an anthropologist to understand Trump’s base’, wrote a ‘distinguished professor’ earlier this year, breezily unaware of the offence such pseudo-scientific studies might cause to those being studied. That’s another thing they still don’t get: how creepy they seem to ordinary people.

[ratty]

Nov 6, 2024 17:53:09 GMT walnut said:

Incredibly unbalanced, negative way to deliver the "news":

CNN
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Donald Trump will be America’s 47th president, CNN projected Wednesday, after mounting the most momentous comeback in political history that will hand him massive, disruptive power at home and will send shockwaves around the world.

www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/politics/trump-wins-election/index.html

Thanks Walnut. I posed this on another forum:

I wonder how this result will affect the mainstream media in future? Will it make them step back and consider what they tried to do and failed?

It seems not.

[missouriboy]

[douglavers]

IMO The USA [and the Western World] dodged a huge bullet.

I think this is an historical break point where the sea of Wokeness starts to get rolled back.

It will cause large problems elsewhere. eg The Labour Govt in the UK sent 100 "volonteers" to help the Democrats a couple of months before the election.

Apart from being blatant interference in an ally's election, they got it wrong. Also the UK Foriegn Minister has been exceedingly rude about Trump in the past.

This will not be forgotten by the new US government.

Anyhow, with three of the 4 world's largest economies now completely abandoning "net zero" targets, it is going to make most countries in Europe and Oceania look completely stupid.

They will go broke if they don't change course soon.

[walnut]

Another example of slanted reporting from NBC News:

"TRUMP RETURNS TO POWER
Donald Trump is elected 47th U.S. president with a decisive victory, marking a historic and polarizing comeback."

**apparently not so polarizing, he won by a landslide and took back blue states.

[ratty]

Nov 7, 2024 1:38:10 GMT douglavers said:

IMO The USA [and the Western World] dodged a huge bullet.

I think this is an historical break point where the sea of Wokeness starts to get rolled back.

It will cause large problems elsewhere. eg The Labour Govt in the UK sent 100 "volonteers" to help the Democrats a couple of months before the election.

Apart from being blatant interference in an ally's election, they got it wrong. Also the UK Foriegn Minister has been exceedingly rude about Trump in the past.

This will not be forgotten by the new US government.

Anyhow, with three of the 4 world's largest economies now completely abandoning "net zero" targets, it is going to make most countries in Europe and Oceania look completely stupid.

They will go broke if they don't change course soon.

IMNSHO, you're right.

[gridley]

Don't celebrate too quickly. Yes, Trump won, and won big. And that's not all - the Republicans will have a majority in the US Senate, at least 52 votes.

Wait, at least 52? Why 'at least'?

Well, let's get into the bad news. A full day and a half after the polls closed there are still three Senate races uncalled - in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Nevada. Wait, two of those states sound familiar...

As of this morning the Republicans are also up in the House (212 to 197). There are *26* House seats still uncalled. 13 of them are in California, two in Oregon, and two in Washington. Apparently the West Coast (solidly Dem at the state level, please note) is having a hard time counting.

While Trump won, and won big, there were some oddities on election night. Why the delay calling Georgia, just as one example? Could it be that the suitcases of ballots were ready... and the decision was made that Trump was going to win too massively for them to swing things? But in safer states... maybe something could still be saved? If the Dems keep control of the House it would make things a lot harder.

[Sigurdur]

[missouriboy]

Wonder how safe they would be out on the streets controlled by their View. 

[missouriboy]

Does this cast of characters set the framework for the next 12 years?  If so, we may have a chance.

[ratty]

CNN's take ...

What happens to Trump’s criminal and civil cases now that he’s been reelected

[ratty]

Ted Cruz: The Weaponizing of The US Legal System

[ratty]