Gates

[blustnmtn]

Nov 23, 2022 3:03:24 GMT vk4khp said:

I will try and find some recent links to it that have gates involvement, If i can.
Although there are companies, in the process as the links show.

I posted this back in October on this subject in the “Biden” thread:

solarcycle25com.proboards.com/post/13212/thread

www.theblaze.com/news/biden-administration-coordinating-research-into-ways-to-dim-the-sun

[blustnmtn]

This is from January:

www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2022/01/20/solar-geoengineering-why-bill-gates-wants-it-but-these-experts-want-to-stop-it/?sh=7beae30e1842

[walnut]

Nov 24, 2022 13:02:45 GMT blustnmtn said:

This is from January:

www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2022/01/20/solar-geoengineering-why-bill-gates-wants-it-but-these-experts-want-to-stop-it/?sh=7beae30e1842

This is so frustrating.  No way to escape this one, we will all be participating.

[code]

Nov 24, 2022 13:02:45 GMT blustnmtn said:

This is from January:

www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2022/01/20/solar-geoengineering-why-bill-gates-wants-it-but-these-experts-want-to-stop-it/?sh=7beae30e1842

Proponents of so-called solar geoengineering, such as tech billionaire Bill Gates, say techniques intended to block a portion of the solar radiation reaching the planet ought to be considered. Gates himself has put his money where his mouth is, backing a Harvard University experiment to look at the effect of spraying particles into the stratosphere to, in theory, create a global cooling effect.

I believe if the experiment goes wrong, Mr. Gates will reverse course.

In the Science Fiction book "The Ministry for the Future" by Kim Stanley Robinson. India does this after a heat wave kills millions in their country. 

Two recent articles about the idea:

www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-a-warming-planet/dimming-the-sun-to-cool-the-planet-is-a-desperate-idea-yet-were-inching-toward-it

futurism.com/scientists-calling-dim-sun-geoengineering

[duwayne]

Let me make my position on aerosols a little clearer.

I see aerosols as a possible antidote for potential dangers of excessive global warming that many of those in power perceive as possible.

It’s like snake venom. You don’t use it if you don’t need it. But with snake venom available  you can take chances in the Arizona environment like going outdoors (rattlesnakes are everywhere) because you have a way of surviving an otherwise deadly event.

Let’s keep using fossil fuels. If something catastrophic (unexpected to most of us here including me) occurs, let’s have an antidote ready.

If you are not sure whether the antidote works, let’s test it (for free with Bill Gates’ money).

Don’t take the antidote if there is no problem. Under today's situation, let's not dim the sun except for minimal tests.

At the same time we could be adding nuclear power, not eliminating it.

[nonentropic]

yes thats the bluff that they do not want to hear.

Its about eliminating Capitalism not using it.

[blustnmtn]

Since human caused “warming/climate change”is still only a theory in view of the data being within the range of normal variation, I think this is borderline insanity. That said, if money is being thrown around, folks are going to pick it up.

[blustnmtn]

This jerk can’t go away quick enough. Hopefully he’ll take Kerry and Gore with him:

www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/12/grandpa_gates_fraudulent_co2_fetish.html

[walnut]

Nov 24, 2022 21:03:30 GMT blustnmtn said:

Since human caused “warming/climate change”is still only a theory in view of the data being within the range of normal variation, I think this is borderline insanity. That said, if money is being thrown around, folks are going to pick it up.

Of course though, their data has been manipulated to show that the climate has not stayed within normal variation.  If we claim that the data is fake, we sound like conspiracy theorists.  I think that is where we lose traction in the political debate.  As  we have seen at other times, if the lie is bold enough, the public tends to believe it.

[missouriboy]

Dec 23, 2022 14:10:41 GMT walnut said:

Nov 24, 2022 21:03:30 GMT blustnmtn said:

Since human caused “warming/climate change”is still only a theory in view of the data being within the range of normal variation, I think this is borderline insanity. That said, if money is being thrown around, folks are going to pick it up.

Of course though, their data has been manipulated to show that the climate has not stayed within normal variation.  If we claim that the data is fake, we sound like conspiracy theorists.  I think that is where we lose traction in the political debate.  As  we have seen at other times, if the lie is bold enough, the public tends to believe it.

Since much is riding on their prognostications, the prognosticators should be required to warranty (insure) their prognostications and post a bond.  Governments should not be allowed to do this.  Forecasts might become more reasonable rather quickly.