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Post by missouriboy on Jul 30, 2021 16:21:00 GMT
I'm curious if anyone believes Trump won? I believe that there was massive fraud in the “swing” states as evidenced by the coincidental shut down of vote counting in the middle of the night. How this can ever be remedied, I don’t know. The people take whatever TPTB want…so far… Ditto here. The overwhelming spatial and temporal one-sided vote surges in the unsupervised middle of the night in the heavily Democrat stongholds beggar statistical belief. The Easter Bunny has greater statistical probability IMHO. And I've watched national elections all of my adult life. |
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Post by code on Jul 30, 2021 18:02:26 GMT
I believe that there was massive fraud in the “swing” states as evidenced by the coincidental shut down of vote counting in the middle of the night. How this can ever be remedied, I don’t know. The people take whatever TPTB want…so far… Ditto here. The overwhelming spatial and temporal one-sided vote surges in the unsupervised middle of the night in the heavily Democrat stongholds beggar statistical belief. The Easter Bunny has greater statistical probability IMHO. And I've watched national elections all of my adult life. Thanks for the feedback to the both of you.
Blust,
Do you have a link for the shut-down and claim of harm?
Missouri, One-sided voting does not necessarily indicate fraud |
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 30, 2021 18:31:44 GMT
Ditto here. The overwhelming spatial and temporal one-sided vote surges in the unsupervised middle of the night in the heavily Democrat stongholds beggar statistical belief. The Easter Bunny has greater statistical probability IMHO. And I've watched national elections all of my adult life. Thanks for the feedback to the both of you.
Blust,
Do you have a link for the shut-down and claim of harm?
Missouri, One-sided voting does not necessarily indicate fraud You are quite right. It is not the results. It's a bit like "believing" in the stated mechanisms of the CO2 fairy. They just don't stack up. |
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Post by nonentropic on Jul 30, 2021 19:24:26 GMT
the resistance to full recounts basically tells you there is a problem.
AZ recount is coming out soon that will be the indicator. I trust the process in place and if that shows "material and partisan fraud" then its got to worry all including the Democrats.
The Democrats you or I have supported in the past have little to do with the group in play now.
Regarding Trump his time has passed and if the outcome was a better democracy then he may well be the best President of the last years but not for the reasons that most think.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jul 30, 2021 21:11:20 GMT
Ditto here. The overwhelming spatial and temporal one-sided vote surges in the unsupervised middle of the night in the heavily Democrat stongholds beggar statistical belief. The Easter Bunny has greater statistical probability IMHO. And I've watched national elections all of my adult life. Thanks for the feedback to the both of you.
Blust,
Do you have a link for the shut-down and claim of harm?
Missouri, One-sided voting does not necessarily indicate fraud Code, there are many reports of this. The Left denies it occurred. The reports of this happened that evening and the next morning. Like all things, the water has been muddied to the point that there is no longer any truth. Biden got more votes than any president in history and Trump is a Russian agent, doesn’t make sense to me. www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/six-battleground-states-democrat-governors-pause-counting-election-night-coordinated/I’m not interested in debating this. We believe what we want to believe. |
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Post by walnut on Jul 30, 2021 23:50:18 GMT
The crime has been swept under the rug by the media, and the scene has been 'put right'. But it has not been forgotten.
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Post by youngjasper on Jul 31, 2021 0:10:37 GMT
I'm curious if anyone believes Trump won? I don't know how much focus you had during the election campaign on the crowds for Trump and Biden. Trump was drawing tens of thousands. Biden was drawing maybe 20 total, and that was when he actually got out. Of course this is not scientific, but it is compelling in my opinion.
Then the results from the AZ audit bring the entire results in AZ into question:
STUNNING in race decided by 10,457 votes
3,981 voted despite registered AFTER Oct 15 deadline
11,326 voted who were NOT on rolls on Nov 7 but WERE on Dec 4
18,000 voted and then were removed from rolls AFTER election
74,243 mail-in ballots w/ NO evidence of ever being sent
And if it was this way in AZ, then the other five states that halted voting have a very high likelihood of having similar issues.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 31, 2021 1:34:30 GMT
I'm curious if anyone believes Trump won? I don't know how much focus you had during the election campaign on the crowds for Trump and Biden. Trump was drawing tens of thousands. Biden was drawing maybe 20 total, and that was when he actually got out. Of course this is not scientific, but it is compelling in my opinion.
Then the results from the AZ audit bring the entire results in AZ into question:
STUNNING in race decided by 10,457 votes
3,981 voted despite registered AFTER Oct 15 deadline
11,326 voted who were NOT on rolls on Nov 7 but WERE on Dec 4
18,000 voted and then were removed from rolls AFTER election
74,243 mail-in ballots w/ NO evidence of ever being sent
And if it was this way in AZ, then the other five states that halted voting have a very high likelihood of having similar issues.
And let's not forget 4 big Democrat urban areas ... Philadelphia (PA), Detroit (MI), Milwaukee (WI) and Atlanta (GA) ... all long known for political corruption ... that gave Biden the win in each of those states ... a total of 57 electoral votes. With Arizona that makes 68. Biden only won by 37. The senates of each of these states are controlled by Republicans. If Arizona can audit the presidential election ballots, then so can the others. Doesn't matter if it takes a year, 2 years, whatever. It absolutely has to be done. If the election was stolen, it is not specifically about Trump ... and it is not JUST A CRIME. It is TREASON. Last I looked, treason still carried the death penalty. Let the matter be pushed with vigor, regardless of cost. Nance on a Lance. We will let Blu personally light the fire under Chuckie.  |
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Post by gridley on Jul 31, 2021 14:56:52 GMT
I believe there was massive fraud. There was certainly some amount of fraud.
I happened to be watching Pennsylvania (used to live there, still know people there, including an election official) on election night because I was really hoping it would go for Trump. The mid-evening results looked quite promising for that. Then the mail-in ballots rolled in... and some of the election monitors were pushed out. The state was called for Biden. Was there enough fraud to swing the election? I don't know. The official records say it was close - it wouldn't have taken much. If you look at a county-by-county breakdown many of the results in PA are quite surprising. In isolation you could explain any one of them - and most of them could be explained if Biden had been a charismatic, popular candidate and Trump had been a drone. Looking at all the data? There was plenty of justification for a thorough investigation (and many calls for it within the state). I've been unable to find any indication that any official investigation was carried out.
Was there enough fraud nationally to swing the election? I don't know. I find the insistence by a large number of people right after the election - before an investigation could even have been started - that there had been no election fraud to be quite suspicious.
I find it particularly suspicious that *before* the election some folks I know on the far left were presenting the narrative that election fraud is a myth. Yes, *before* the election. They were also pushing strongly for nationwide mail-in ballots, screeching that voter ID is racist, etc.
Prepping the field? I doubt we'll ever know for sure.
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Post by Sigurdur on Jul 31, 2021 16:23:19 GMT
I'm curious if anyone believes Trump won? Do you believe Trump won? |
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Post by dej on Jul 31, 2021 22:28:20 GMT
SIG. Yes he won. Go back to 2016 and think about Hilldebeast's shock that the Dims cheating didn't turn the election to her. All ready had victory celebrations ready to go. Very pisd that they didn't cheat enough. They made up for it in 2020 with in your face cheating.
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Post by missouriboy on Jul 31, 2021 23:56:13 GMT
A democracy ... or in our case, a constitutional republic ... can only survive in the long run if most people play by the rules. Lacking that, there are really only two options ... civil war or serfdom. Now while New Hampshire may have forgotten their state motto, we haven't ... LIVE FREE OR DIE!
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Post by blustnmtn on Aug 1, 2021 1:27:58 GMT
The Constitution of the United States has only been preserved by “the honor system”. Now we find ourselves with a government devoid of honor. A post constitutional America is coming and some are not going to accept it.
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Post by missouriboy on Aug 1, 2021 1:54:33 GMT
The Constitution of the United States has only been preserved by “the honor system”. Now we find ourselves with a government devoid of honor. A post constitutional America is coming and some are not going to accept it. A post constitutional America cannot be allowed to come. End of story. If our republic and our rights were worth the fight of our ancestors, they are worth our fight as well. I am an old guy and some hills are more worthy than others. |
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Post by Sigurdur on Aug 1, 2021 5:42:14 GMT
Agreed. I am a Veteran, willing to do it once, willing to do it again.
We are in bad times, the good times produced men like 10%Joe. Strong men will emerge.
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