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Post by wheels59 on Dec 10, 2021 23:09:29 GMT
I believe that carbon must be God. The universe is full of it, everything on this planet is made up with it to some degree. It obviously controls the weather/climate and we must all bow down before it and all the enlightened ones who let us know when we're getting too much of a good thing. šš
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 10, 2021 23:43:11 GMT
I believe that carbon must be God. The universe is full of it, everything on this planet is made up with it to some degree. It obviously controls the weather/climate and we must all bow down before it and all the enlightened ones who let us know when we're getting too much of a good thing. šš The Great Carbonzo Bean. Advisor to Kings and the sustenence to billions. To be replaced by Brown 25.
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 11, 2021 2:51:47 GMT
I believe in God, as I have observed, and continue to observe answers to Prayer. My daughter should be dead, or if not dead, fully quadriplegic and on a respirator.
She can walk, (stiffly), breathes well and has blessed us with 3 grandchildren.
The medical prognosis was not good. There were 1,000's praying for her. She is considered a miracle at Mayo clinic as she fully exceeded every potential medical outcome.
As with Pascal's principle, I have everything to gain, nothing to lose if I am wrong. I don't believe I am wrong.
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 11, 2021 3:05:09 GMT
I used to be an agnostic. But on May 7th 2018 I got a call no dad should ever get. My wife had taken our ailing eleven year old son to the doctor for the fifth time in a couple of weeks and what we thought was a virus or mononucleosis turned out to be stage IV kidney cancer. The tumor extended from his kidney, through his inferior vena cava and into his heart. I hit my knees and started praying and have not stopped since. The prognosis was not good as we needed chemo to shrink the tumor far enough away from his tricuspid valves to have a chance at a long shot open heart surgery to remove it. I guess the old saying about an absence of atheists in foxholes is true after all. I was in need of not one but at least two miracles. Long story short after a grueling couple of years of chemo, radiation and a 15 hour open heart surgery my 11 year old boy is now 14 and cancer free. This does not prove the existence of a God but it certainly made a believer out of me. I also find that taking a few minutes a day to pray keeps me grounded and focused on the things in life that really matter. So to answer your question I am firmly in the "yes" camp. The first picture is from the recovery room after the surgery the second is from a couple months ago. Glenn: We share something similar in life. Both of our children beat the odds. With all the spinal cord damage, brain damage, nerve damage that my daughter had, it truly is a miracle for both of us. I don't understand, yet I will share this story. We were living in Rochester. She had no bowel control, was on feeding tube. was pretty much full quad. We took her out of the hospital setting. Rented an apartment that was handicapped compatible. I was her "mule". She was a big girl for 7 years of age. 4'11" tall, weighed 130lbs. Caring for her was a challenge. I remember one night after hanging her feeding bag, I placed my hands on her head/neck and prayed for everything I was worth. My hands turned bluish in color. Don't ask me to explain it, I can't. The next day, she started wiggling her left big toe on command. She regained feeling in her legs/feet. That day was the beginning of a steady progress. OT turned exciting, as she started using her hands as well. She had no arm nor leg movement, yet her fingers started working and her toes started working. He epiglottitis starting working a bit, (When it didn't work, she would aspirate because if she swallowed, it went into her lungs. Or if she tried to eat, it went down the "wrong tube". I don't, by myself, have any power. Yet, the blue hands happening.............and the response after. is too much physical evidence to ignore. 4 1/2 months later, she was good enough so we could all come home. The road to recovery was long, yet steady. Prior to the blue hands, she wasn't changing. After the blue hands event? She changed. That is all the evidence I need. I believe.
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Post by walnut on Dec 11, 2021 4:03:40 GMT
By that reasoning, I assume that you would not have violated the mummy's curse either? Better safe than sorry! Remind me of the difference between grave robbing and archaeology again? ;-) It seems like anything older than about 500 years is fair game. Yes I think it is odd, too. I would not want to be involved in it myself.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 11, 2021 5:13:49 GMT
Remind me of the difference between grave robbing and archaeology again? ;-) It seems like anything older than about 500 years is fair game. Yes I think it is odd, too. I would not want to be involved in it myself. That's about right. Beyond then, no pain-in-the-butt relatives to worry about in North America except perhaps some of the Tribes. If they start digging up my Grandpa, there's gonna be a fight. Actually, archaeologists have contributed much to our understanding of the past. No worse for grandstanding and self-endorsement than other fields. Of course there are the thieves. At one time, as a young lad, being fascinated with the field, I considered a major. But was brought to my senses by some who knew about the lack of jobs and the meager pickins. Now I do it as a hobby, always wanting ever more DNA samples from Indo-European Celts in Europe. Takes a long time to accumulate large sample sizes out of academic institutions. Hand digging sites in remote locations is labor intensive. The kind of thing you hire grad students for on small budgets ... unless you are a big name with lots of publications. It's brutal. Them small fields are very clanish with the full range of egos you would expect. They'll tell you to go dig your own hole. The last Celt will have taken the boat to the West before they're done with just the greater Stonehenge area. Lots of people still publishing in the field (Europe especially). Lots of downloadable articles through this site. Just navigate back to their main page. You can get most of them for free if you limit them to one at a time and 86 the extra payfor options, www.academia.edu/38869577/Celts_in_Mainland_Europe?email_work_card=title
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Post by walnut on Dec 11, 2021 5:47:12 GMT
It seems like anything older than about 500 years is fair game. Yes I think it is odd, too. I would not want to be involved in it myself. That's about right. Beyond then, no pain-in-the-butt relatives to worry about in North America except perhaps some of the Tribes. If they start digging up my Grandpa, there's gonna be a fight. Actually, archaeologists have contributed much to our understanding of the past. No worse for grandstanding and self-endorsement than other fields. Of course there are the thieves. At one time, as a young lad, being fascinated with the field, I considered a major. But was brought to my senses by some who knew about the lack of jobs and the meager pickins. Now I do it as a hobby, always wanting ever more DNA samples from Indo-European Celts in Europe. Takes a long time to accumulate large sample sizes out of academic institutions. Hand digging sites in remote locations is labor intensive. The kind of thing you hire grad students for on small budgets ... unless you are a big name with lots of publications. It's brutal. Them small fields are very clanish with the full range of egos you would expect. They'll tell you to go dig your own hole. The last Celt will have taken the boat to the West before they're done with just the greater Stonehenge area. Lots of people still publishing in the field (Europe especially). Lots of downloadable articles through this site. Just navigate back to their main page. You can get most of them for free if you limit them to one at a time and 86 the extra payfor options, www.academia.edu/38869577/Celts_in_Mainland_Europe?email_work_card=titleThat looks like an interesting paper.
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Post by flearider on Dec 11, 2021 6:09:35 GMT
should this not be which god's do you believe in ? there are so many ... the best means for control something you can't put a finger on and has a man telling you it's going to be aright ... btw used to be born again .. laying on of hands and everything .. now i'm more skeptical ...
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Post by blustnmtn on Dec 11, 2021 15:56:55 GMT
For me, ultimately, intelligent design wins over chance. A very simple thoughtā¦the ācoincidenceā that the size of our planet, moon and sun vs their relative distances just āhappenā to cause mutually total eclipses seems implausible when considering all the variables involved coupled with sentient beings that can actually witness and appreciate the event. First rule of investigationā¦donāt believe in coincidence!
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 11, 2021 17:18:53 GMT
For me, ultimately, intelligent design wins over chance. A very simple thoughtā¦the ācoincidenceā that the size of our planet, moon and sun vs their relative distances just āhappenā to cause mutually total eclipses seems implausible when considering all the variables involved coupled with sentient beings that can actually witness and appreciate the event. First rule of investigationā¦donāt believe in coincidence! So ... when Marta calls me a statistical aberration, I should just smile knowingly?
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Post by pbfoot on Dec 11, 2021 17:45:43 GMT
I believe in a higher power,not organized religion. I refuse to believe existence is just a random mixing of atoms. Big Bang doesn't pass my smell test. Dark matter doesn't exist. If you live by the Golden Rule life is pretty good.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 11, 2021 18:31:48 GMT
I believe in a higher power,not organized religion. I refuse to believe existence is just a random mixing of atoms. Big Bang doesn't pass my smell test. Dark matter doesn't exist. If you live by the Golden Rule life is pretty good. Dark matter is alive and well in the Democrat Party. (For those easily offended, that was NOT an ethnic slur)
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Post by code on Dec 11, 2021 18:44:23 GMT
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Post by code on Dec 11, 2021 18:44:52 GMT
i'm with the oldest text out there .. we are slaves we were made to do a job .. now forgotten Ron Hubbard?
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Post by code on Dec 11, 2021 18:48:09 GMT
Physics is not one of my strengths. I just can't wrap my head around an infinitely hot and dense single point suddenly exploding and creating everything in the universe in a Big Bang. Everything already existed, that it is changing and moving is something we observe.
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