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Post by missouriboy on Aug 30, 2022 22:00:23 GMT
And back to cosmic rays and the sun.
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Post by blustnmtn on Oct 24, 2022 16:30:44 GMT
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Post by blustnmtn on Apr 16, 2024 18:41:00 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 16, 2024 20:56:17 GMT
So, unless the catastrophists can tie CO2 to a master control on the clouds their f'cked?
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steve
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Post by steve on Apr 17, 2024 2:22:40 GMT
So, unless the catastrophists can tie CO2 to a master control on the clouds their f'cked? Clouds are a large problem for weather forecasting. I do not think the models properly account for all of the effects. Phase changes are extremely hard to model on a small scale let alone a planetary scale. Then throw in how clouds impact the radiant heat from the sun. I think there will need to be hundreds of academic papers written to figure out the math. Then the amount of computing power required solve the models will be huge, even by todays standards.
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Post by flearider on Apr 17, 2024 5:32:08 GMT
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Post by Sigurdur on Apr 17, 2024 5:59:26 GMT
Heaviest in 70 years. Prior to that what happened?
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 18, 2024 21:48:18 GMT
They don't engineer for these rare intense events in the Middle East. This was somewhat common in Jeddah when I worked there. Improperly engineered drainage in large parts of Jeddah caused flooding with every rare but large event.
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Post by nonentropic on Apr 19, 2024 0:45:06 GMT
And the drains have debris in them from periods of little use.
they will be clean now though
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Post by gridley on Apr 19, 2024 10:46:56 GMT
And the drains have debris in them from periods of little use. they will be clean now though Or completely clogged with the debris from this event, which won't get cleaned out because Inshallah.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 19, 2024 11:37:53 GMT
And the drains have debris in them from periods of little use. they will be clean now though Cleaned out by Pakistani and Bangladeshi laborers imported to the Sheikdom for just such things. Saudi was full of them. Modern day demi-slaves who get to go home every two years to see their families that their wages support.
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 28, 2024 17:50:12 GMT
A Comparison of ENSO Region SST Anomalies and Percentage Cloud Cover.
For ENSO Regions 4, 3.4 and 3 SST and cloud cover are almost inter-changeable. As sea surface temperatures increase, cloud cover percentages rise ... and vice versa. I am assuming it is in that order. Warming surface waters result in higher evaporation rates, which cools as it rises and forms clouds. ENSO Region 1+2 is different for some reason. Suggestions?
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Post by missouriboy on Apr 28, 2024 19:30:38 GMT
And while I'm at it, this chart adds the IR-2-Space timeseries which is measured by satellite for the same longitudinal swath as ENSO Region 4. These display the primary tropical ocean variables (for which we have data) that display tropical sea surface heating and cooling in ENSO zone 4 (160 W -160 E). Sunspots as a proxy for heating. SSTs for ocean surface heat content. Cloud cover for Troposphere insulation. And Long-wave radiation going to space. Note that radiation going to space is dramatically suppressed by clouds.
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