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Dec 19, 2022 3:36:44 GMT
Post by walnut on Dec 19, 2022 3:36:44 GMT
I'm not buying the China hype particularly. I think that if we had the various economic and societal problems of the scale of what China appears to be experiencing, well, that is difficult to even imagine happening over here. Frankly, China sucks.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 19, 2022 7:10:20 GMT
I'm not buying the China hype particularly. I think that if we had the various economic and societal problems of the scale of what China appears to be experiencing, well, that is difficult to even imagine happening over here. Frankly, China sucks. I only buy china for dinner.  Although I am fond of cashew chicken. |
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Feb 5, 2023 3:51:21 GMT
Post by code on Feb 5, 2023 3:51:21 GMT
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Post by code on Feb 5, 2023 3:54:09 GMT
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Feb 5, 2023 14:11:24 GMT
Post by glennkoks on Feb 5, 2023 14:11:24 GMT
The Chinese have much more sophisticated ways to spy on us. No need to send an easily spotted oversized balloon, they have satellites. More detailed info could have been obtained by flying an agent into Mexico have him walk across our southern border, rent a car, buy a drone at Walmart and start spying.
I think it was just what they said it was. A weather balloon. They are not that uncommon...
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Post by walnut on Feb 5, 2023 15:02:59 GMT
This is what we've waited for, this is it boys this is war
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Post by glennkoks on Feb 5, 2023 15:08:58 GMT
There is no doubt that the US is deliberately targeting China and Russia. Using every opportunity to escalate tensions. Probably in response to their attempts to usurp the USD and start trading crude in Yuan. Much has been made about what Charles De Gaulle coined as "exorbitant privilege". Since the end of World War II to buy a barrel of oil every other nation in the world has to put up USD's they had to somehow earn. All the US had to do was print that money. Hence the exorbitant privilege.
I am not an economist but it seems to me that if the BRIC nations start trading oil in Yuan or other currencies they won't need the USD anymore. Being as the world has traded oil in US dollars for over three quarters of a century there will be a bunch of greenbacks sitting around not getting used. I do understand enough about economics to know that whenever there is a surplus of anything that nobody wants or uses any more it looses it's value.
Think of the poor souls that had manufacturing facilities building pay telephones or eight track tapes...
So it appears that the United States is taking any threat to usurp the greenback as the worlds reserve currency very, very seriously.
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Post by walnut on Feb 5, 2023 15:21:57 GMT
I agree that emphasis is suddenly on China lately. I interpreted it to be an intentional distraction from Covid crimes. Genocidal vaccines, unlawful mandates, Gov't sponsored biolabs, oh lord
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Feb 5, 2023 17:47:22 GMT
Post by flearider on Feb 5, 2023 17:47:22 GMT
There is no doubt that the US is deliberately targeting China and Russia. Using every opportunity to escalate tensions. Probably in response to their attempts to usurp the USD and start trading crude in Yuan. Much has been made about what Charles De Gaulle coined as "exorbitant privilege". Since the end of World War II to buy a barrel of oil every other nation in the world has to put up USD's they had to somehow earn. All the US had to do was print that money. Hence the exorbitant privilege. I am not an economist but it seems to me that if the BRIC nations start trading oil in Yuan or other currencies they won't need the USD anymore. Being as the world has traded oil in US dollars for over three quarters of a century there will be a bunch of greenbacks sitting around not getting used. I do understand enough about economics to know that whenever there is a surplus of anything that nobody wants or uses any more it looses it's value. Think of the poor souls that had manufacturing facilities building pay telephones or eight track tapes... So it appears that the United States is taking any threat to usurp the greenback as the worlds reserve currency very, very seriously. but this is of there own making .. ?? why would you back everything on your currency ... gold yes money/paper no .. they knew it would happen some day .. thats why your trillions in debt .. 30-50 yrs from now unless things change you know your going to be a third world country .. Africa will rule .. as it will produce the most food .. |
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Post by code on Feb 5, 2023 18:25:29 GMT
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Feb 5, 2023 18:34:12 GMT
Post by code on Feb 5, 2023 18:34:12 GMT
The Chinese have much more sophisticated ways to spy on us. No need to send an easily spotted oversized balloon, they have satellites. More detailed info could have been obtained by flying an agent into Mexico have him walk across our southern border, rent a car, buy a drone at Walmart and start spying. I think it was just what they said it was. A weather balloon. They are not that uncommon... It may well be just a weather balloon, and then again it may well be just a weather balloon used to "case our joint".
(idiomatic, slang, criminology) To thoroughly observe or examine a place, in order to familiarize oneself with its workings in preparation for criminal activity, often robbery.
Oh, excuse me. I was lost and just looking for the men's room......
Not Sun Tzu, The Art of War, but close enough.
Deception is the better part of truth.
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Feb 6, 2023 1:00:48 GMT
Post by youngjasper on Feb 6, 2023 1:00:48 GMT
An observation: If I remember correctly when the CCP balloon was over Montana, it was 60k ft in altitude. Fighter jets cannot fly that high. When it was over North Carolina, I think it was 30-35k feet. Fighter jets CAN fly at that altitude. Why would CCP lower the altitude of a balloon that could easily go well above 60k ft to avoid destruction. What is going on here?
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Feb 6, 2023 4:02:55 GMT
Post by missouriboy on Feb 6, 2023 4:02:55 GMT
That weather balloon is a long way from home. Good to know they are so concerned about us.  |
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Feb 6, 2023 6:30:58 GMT
Post by ratty on Feb 6, 2023 6:30:58 GMT
An observation: If I remember correctly when the CCP balloon was over Montana, it was 60k ft in altitude. Fighter jets cannot fly that high. When it was over North Carolina, I think it was 30-35k feet. Fighter jets CAN fly at that altitude. Why would CCP lower the altitude of a balloon that could easily go well above 60k ft to avoid destruction. What is going on here? It was designed to come down? |
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Post by gridley on Feb 6, 2023 11:41:34 GMT
An observation: If I remember correctly when the CCP balloon was over Montana, it was 60k ft in altitude. Fighter jets cannot fly that high. When it was over North Carolina, I think it was 30-35k feet. Fighter jets CAN fly at that altitude. Why would CCP lower the altitude of a balloon that could easily go well above 60k ft to avoid destruction. What is going on here? Um... yes, yes fighters can most certainly fly that high. The *open source* ceiling listed for an F-15 is 65,000 ft. That's the altitude *it* can fly at. It can launch missiles that will go higher. Note that the US military routinely understates its hardware capabilities.
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Although I am fond of cashew chicken.
