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Post by glennkoks on May 11, 2024 17:38:51 GMT
The only reason we have not already collapsed into something akin to the Weimar Republic is we are still the one eyed man in the land of the blind. If China and the BRICS had their stuff together and were a viable option for usurping the dollar as the worlds reserve currency we would be in deep dark trouble. As it stands now and at least a few years longer the dollar is still king and we still enjoy the exorbitant privilege of being able to print our way to prosperity.
With that being said we are on borrowed time.
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Post by missouriboy on May 11, 2024 18:07:36 GMT
The Democrats and the Corrupt Class took a middling-level contagion (assisted), turned it into an engineered emergency, and threw the entire remaining wealth of the Federal Government at it. In effect, we have "stolen and eaten the seed corn". There is nothing left to plant. And the crooks (traitors) are scurrying off to hide amongst the loot ... while the population pays the price of their greed and its own stupidity. Watch the bottom fall out of the Nanny State. Follow that construction index (and manufacturing index). Where does that puppy hit the bottom? The Fourth Turning bargain basement special. I sincerely hope to be wrong. We are no longer a society where a sizeable portion of the population lives on their own farm and manufactures their own wealth. We live on semi-tidy little urban lots and depend on others to employ us ... from the plumber to the teacher. Compare the recent male migrants looting the big cities. Like Huns in Hungary. They came for the promised land, and they intend to have it. It has been the "Historical Way" and they are pursuing it. Will the local population fight back? Perhaps this allegory is over-contrived. But it sure seems to be happening. I think you are right on the money, we have squandered our inheritance. You can't live on the principal, you live on some of the interest and save the rest. We are not a vital, growing race of people, I guess I wish the new occupants well. I hope they learned something by watching our failures. Personally, I'm not in a surrendering mood. And I'm hoping that my neighbors in the still great State of Missouri (and the whole Midwest and South) are not either. Molon labe. Parts of the big cities may be lost. But they will starve without us. Maybe their Democrat Masters will keep them fed. But I doubt it. They haven't proved themselves adept at anything else. |
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Post by walnut on May 12, 2024 1:16:21 GMT
I didn't see much to encourage me that my fellow citizens are up to the task over the plandemic engineered crisis. I know now that we have no discernment, judgement, or backbone. This generation is easily fooled and manipulated. Maybe they can be led to fight, but they will almost certainly be fooled to fight for the wrong cause, on the wrong side, against a contrived enemy.
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Post by missouriboy on May 12, 2024 12:38:57 GMT
It has been almost 95 years ... essentially four generations. The timing and intensity of such cycles is very difficult to predict. But you can be assured that they DO return. I remember my father telling me about signs. like the one below. He was the oldest and wandered West in the CCC years and did the public works thing. Strong back from years behind a mule and a plow. But the family of ten had a free-and-clear 60+ acre farm. Besides being a farmer, Grand Dad was a smith and built his own small forge. Technology of his Celtic forebears brought down to date. Fired by local coal or wood and doused by the "draw-pond" that set beside it.
Old generations are fond of speculating on the "strengths and weaknesses" of the current generation. Used to be that men came with a portion of the accumulated technology of their times ... which they physically controlled. Now ... Cindy may be smarter than most of them. Those who graduate to Vandel and Hun will fertilize the Earth ... as in the Old Days.
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Post by glennkoks on May 12, 2024 16:55:40 GMT
My father told me stories about growing up in The Great Depression in Chicago and the family "thrift garden". My grandfather lost his job during The Great Depression as a lens maker because he refused to train his replacements. Soon after he lost the family home because he was unable to make the payments. He took what little money he had and purchased another dilapidated home at an auction and went to work fixing it up. One of the first things he did was build a fence around some vacant land in a green space behind his home for a thrift garden. It was about an acre and my father and his siblings spent many a day weeding and working in the garden. Any surplus they grew was traded to the butcher for ham bone or something to make soup. After church on Sundays they would walk the railroad tracks with a bucket to pick up coal that had fallen off the rail cars to their house in the winter. I asked him if he thought that was ever possible again in the U.S. and he said "if it happened before it can happen again". Below is a picture of a thrift garden in Detroit circa 1934.  |
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Post by walnut on May 12, 2024 19:31:43 GMT
Yes I think of those times when I hear some blue haired college girl complain that she can't possibly afford a house.
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Post by code on May 12, 2024 21:54:05 GMT
Well, it was a thing, the chart is almost unreadable on my phone. I thought maybe you had that issue. Nope, but thanks for thinking about me. And again, what is the picture you are using? Is that a weasel? |
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Post by walnut on May 12, 2024 22:01:51 GMT
Well, it was a thing, the chart is almost unreadable on my phone. I thought maybe you had that issue. Nope, but thanks for thinking about me. And again, what is the picture you are using? Is that a weasel? I don't know, it was a stuffed mammal in a natural history museum, I took a photo of it as I felt a special bond with it. Like maybe it was my animal totem. |
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Post by code on May 12, 2024 22:07:15 GMT
It has been almost 95 years ... essentially four generations. The timing and intensity of such cycles is very difficult to predict. But you can be assured that they DO return. I remember my father telling me about signs. like the one below. He was the oldest and wandered West in the CCC years and did the public works thing. Strong back from years behind a mule and a plow. But the family of ten had a free-and-clear 60+ acre farm. Besides being a farmer, Grand Dad was a smith and built his own small forge. Technology of his Celtic forebears brought down to date. Fired by local coal or wood and doused by the "draw-pond" that set beside it.
Old generations are fond of speculating on the "strengths and weaknesses" of the current generation. Used to be that men came with a portion of the accumulated technology of their times ... which they physically controlled. Now ... Cindy may be smarter than most of them. Those who graduate to Vandel and Hun will fertilize the Earth ... as in the Old Days.
You mentioned the CCC. Out here in the Cascades is a campground with plenty of old CCC fire pits that had built in iron cook tops And they have large picnic shelters with magnificent stone fireplaces with cast iron cook tops also built in.
They have all but fallen into disrepair. Why do you think they put in the fire grate in one photo? Because the stone fireplace with built-in cook top was let go and no one has bothered to fix them, it was easier to just plop down a cheap steel fireplace. And ditto for the very large stone fireplaces in the shelters, those structures have names etched into them by the workers who built them, and they have been let go. Makes me angry more than sad. |
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Post by code on May 12, 2024 22:11:10 GMT
Nope, but thanks for thinking about me. And again, what is the picture you are using? Is that a weasel? I don't know, it was a stuffed mammal in a natural history museum, I took a photo of it as I felt a special bond with it. Like maybe it was my animal totem. Love it! Part of the reason I love that old campground is this place.  :no_upscale():quality(35)/ism4vhogspye3cdkk8nacxtrldq5) |
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Post by walnut on May 12, 2024 22:28:40 GMT
Oh that's pretty. You spend time in nice places...
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Post by missouriboy on May 12, 2024 22:32:12 GMT
Yes I think of those times when I hear some blue haired college girl complain that she can't possibly afford a house. She might want to consider that weeding and hoeing are also hard on the nails.  And that once-a-week bath from a barrel filled at the creek. The hand-laid cistern gathered rain water from the roof, but it was only for drinking and cooking. Imagine 2 adults and 8 children in a 3-room frame house of ~500 sq. feet with a crawl space under the roof between the chiminnies. In summer the overload slept in the barn, which was much bigger than the house. |
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Post by missouriboy on May 12, 2024 22:52:44 GMT
My Grandfather had a penchant for naming his children after friends. I had an aunt whose legal name way Virginia Roy Breedlove. The second youngest son's legal name was Captain Hurley Breedlove. When he served with MacArthur in the Philippines he was Private Captain Hurley Breedlove. He took no end of ribbing over that. |
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Post by missouriboy on May 12, 2024 23:38:14 GMT
Found this. Since I was retired I guess I just wasn't paying enough attention to the economy during Covid.
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Post by missouriboy on May 13, 2024 22:48:54 GMT
These are the kind of things that have made 4th Turnings memorable in past cycles.
Squeezed For Decades, America's Working Class Is Finally Up Against The Wall And then there's this, |
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And that once-a-week bath from a barrel filled at the creek. The hand-laid cistern gathered rain water from the roof, but it was only for drinking and cooking. Imagine 2 adults and 8 children in a 3-room frame house of ~500 sq. feet with a crawl space under the roof between the chiminnies. In summer the overload slept in the barn, which was much bigger than the house.