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Post by missouriboy on Oct 24, 2021 18:58:56 GMT
Alec Baldwin and the Cold-Hot Gun. Thoughts on the Shooting on the film set of Rust. Yes, it was the Armourer's responsibility to make sure that there were only blanks in the "prop" gun handed to Baldwin ... with which he killed one and wounded one, apparently with one bullet. As any trained weapon owner knows ... as I was taught ... and as I taught my son ... 1. A gun is ALWAYS loaded (hot) until you personally ensure that it is not. 2. Never, ever point a gun at anything you do not intend to shoot. The Armourer may be at fault, but Baldwin broke both of these rules, and seemingly pulled the trigger to boot. Alec Baldwin is anti-gun. If Alec Baldwin had been a trained gun owner, none of this would have happened. Having said this, I still feel sorry for him ... as he is going to have to live with it. To your points:
I've been fortunate enough to quail hunt a lot over the years. When we step down from the hunters seats high in the bed of the truck, the process is to hand your shotgun to the person on the ground while it is pointed up in a safe direction. I always ask if the gun is loaded. Of course the answer was always "no." But I always check. No less than four times it was loaded. The hunter had unloaded the magazine, but there was one in the chamber. Always follow number one and two above!
Also when crossing fences. |
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Post by walnut on Oct 24, 2021 19:52:45 GMT
To your points:
I've been fortunate enough to quail hunt a lot over the years. When we step down from the hunters seats high in the bed of the truck, the process is to hand your shotgun to the person on the ground while it is pointed up in a safe direction. I always ask if the gun is loaded. Of course the answer was always "no." But I always check. No less than four times it was loaded. The hunter had unloaded the magazine, but there was one in the chamber. Always follow number one and two above!
Also when crossing fences. Yes, exactly. That's when I have seen many unsafe acts. |
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Post by ratty on Oct 25, 2021 0:35:10 GMT
Slightly related, many years ago, I took my boys out to demonstrate the power of firearms using a Milo tin full of water. Later, we joined a range where both became competent marks menpersons. Neither shoots nowadays but the lessons have been learned.  |
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 25, 2021 1:05:02 GMT
Slightly related, many years ago, I took my boys out to demonstrate the power of firearms using a Milo tin full of water. Later, we joined a range where both became competent marks menpersons. Neither shoots nowadays but the lessons have been learned. Where do you live again Ratty? Could it be you don't have a firearm? |
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Post by youngjasper on Oct 25, 2021 1:26:49 GMT
Slightly related, many years ago, I took my boys out to demonstrate the power of firearms using a Milo tin full of water. Later, we joined a range where both became competent marks menpersons. Neither shoots nowadays but the lessons have been learned. Ratty, you make an excellent point! The visual of what a ballistic is capable of is enormously important and that is a great way of demonstrating that! With my grandson I used a couple of watermelons. Shotgun and rifle. He will never forget it. I must agree with sig, do you still have firearms with which to demonstrate? |
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Post by ratty on Oct 25, 2021 5:28:32 GMT
Slightly related, many years ago, I took my boys out to demonstrate the power of firearms using a Milo tin full of water. Later, we joined a range where both became competent marks menpersons. Neither shoots nowadays but the lessons have been learned. Where do you live again Ratty? Could it be you don't have a firearm? Not any more sig ... my five were bought by the government, including my beautiful Browning .22 which was always under my seat when travelling:  |
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Post by ratty on Oct 25, 2021 7:28:48 GMT
[ Snip ] I must agree with sig, do you still have firearms with which to demonstrate?   |
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 25, 2021 13:22:29 GMT
[ Snip ] I must agree with sig, do you still have firearms with which to demonstrate? I'm going to guess that "the government" didn't even bother to say thank you. That job, I think, would be very difficult around here. |
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Oct 25, 2021 17:55:26 GMT
I'm going to guess that "the government" didn't even bother to say thank you. That job, I think, would be very difficult around here. Did the government give you a choice to sell or keep the firearms, Mr. Rat? If not, it would be more an expropriation than a "sale." |
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Post by ratty on Oct 26, 2021 1:31:26 GMT
I'm going to guess that "the government" didn't even bother to say thank you. That job, I think, would be very difficult around here. Did the government give you a choice to sell or keep the firearms, Mr. Rat? If not, it would be more an expropriation than a "sale." There was a choice. I could have registered and bought a gun safe but I hadn't been shooting seriously for many years and the boys had left home and didn't want their .22s, so I decided to take the cash. My father's Remington Targetmaster went to a friend who was a keen shooter. |
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 27, 2021 19:28:39 GMT
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 27, 2021 19:53:59 GMT
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 27, 2021 22:13:36 GMT
Probably.  |
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Post by Sigurdur on Oct 28, 2021 1:59:15 GMT
Where do you live again Ratty? Could it be you don't have a firearm? Not any more sig ... my five were bought by the government, including my beautiful Browning .22 which was always under my seat when travelling: Why did they want to buy your Browning 22?  I don't understand how anyone could sell that piece. |
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Post by ratty on Oct 28, 2021 6:06:00 GMT
[ Snip ] Why did they want to buy your Browning 22? I don't understand how anyone could sell that piece. Most of the surrendered firearms were destroyed.  More than a million firearms were destroyed after gun laws changed in 1996 |
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The price of my house just went up. 
I don't understand how anyone could sell that piece.