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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 28, 2024 16:45:33 GMT
Chevron Deference has been overturned!!! My earlier post above from February was not entirely optimistic this would happen. A huge victory for those who want to see the Administrative State’s power revoked: www.zerohedge.com/political/scotus-overturns-chevron-deference-massive-blow-administrative-state“Conservatives and Republican policymakers have long been critical of the doctrine, saying it has contributed to the dramatic growth of government and gives unelected regulators far too much power to make policy by going beyond what Congress intended when it approved various laws. The authority of regulatory agencies has been increasingly questioned by the Supreme Court in recent years.”
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Post by ratty on Jun 29, 2024 0:37:46 GMT
Chevron Deference has been overturned!!! My earlier post above from February was not entirely optimistic this would happen. A huge victory for those who want to see the Administrative State’s power revoked: www.zerohedge.com/political/scotus-overturns-chevron-deference-massive-blow-administrative-state“Conservatives and Republican policymakers have long been critical of the doctrine, saying it has contributed to the dramatic growth of government and gives unelected regulators far too much power to make policy by going beyond what Congress intended when it approved various laws. The authority of regulatory agencies has been increasingly questioned by the Supreme Court in recent years.” A sensible ruling. Giving carte blanche to public officials seems like a very bad idea to me ... unless you want to massively increase the size of bureaucracy. In my experience with a couple of quasi-bureaucratic organisations,** there was always someone beavering away on a submission to increase establishment 'so they could better do their job / cope with the huge workload / any other reason'. ** the RAAF and the Australian Postal Corporation
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Post by phydeaux2363 on Jun 29, 2024 23:02:47 GMT
It's interesting to read the pro Chevron deference folks talk about the future under Loper Bright. The comments are almost all short on legal analysis whilst being chock full of hyperbolic end of the world doom. "Rivers will burn!" "MAGA SCOTUS will let us all die in the next pandemic!" "The Oceans will boil, and Exxon will rule the world!" Well, maybe that latter one is right already. I've even seen a comment asking how will we survive if agency "experts" can't "rule our lives." That "rule our lives" is a quote, not my interpretation. Perhaps over the next few months, everyone will calm down a bit, and we can see some thoughtful discussions about how Loper Bright will work in practice.
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Post by ratty on Jun 29, 2024 23:20:06 GMT
It's interesting to read the pro Chevron deference folks talk about the future under Loper Bright. The comments are almost all short on legal analysis whilst being chock full of hyperbolic end of the world doom. "Rivers will burn!" "MAGA SCOTUS will let us all die in the next pandemic!" "The Oceans will boil, and Exxon will rule the world!" Well, maybe that latter one is right already. I've even seen a comment asking how will we survive if agency "experts" can't "rule our lives." That "rule our lives" is a quote, not my interpretation. Perhaps over the next few months, everyone will calm down a bit, and we can see some thoughtful discussions about how Loper Bright will work in practice. How does that mindset develop?
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Post by gridley on Jun 30, 2024 11:34:39 GMT
It's interesting to read the pro Chevron deference folks talk about the future under Loper Bright. The comments are almost all short on legal analysis whilst being chock full of hyperbolic end of the world doom. "Rivers will burn!" "MAGA SCOTUS will let us all die in the next pandemic!" "The Oceans will boil, and Exxon will rule the world!" Well, maybe that latter one is right already. I've even seen a comment asking how will we survive if agency "experts" can't "rule our lives." That "rule our lives" is a quote, not my interpretation. Perhaps over the next few months, everyone will calm down a bit, and we can see some thoughtful discussions about how Loper Bright will work in practice. How does that mindset develop? “Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees.” - Samual Vimes, Terry Pratchett's Feet of Clay.
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Post by blustnmtn on Jun 30, 2024 11:55:23 GMT
It's interesting to read the pro Chevron deference folks talk about the future under Loper Bright. The comments are almost all short on legal analysis whilst being chock full of hyperbolic end of the world doom. "Rivers will burn!" "MAGA SCOTUS will let us all die in the next pandemic!" "The Oceans will boil, and Exxon will rule the world!" Well, maybe that latter one is right already. I've even seen a comment asking how will we survive if agency "experts" can't "rule our lives." That "rule our lives" is a quote, not my interpretation. Perhaps over the next few months, everyone will calm down a bit, and we can see some thoughtful discussions about how Loper Bright will work in practice. How does that mindset develop? The Politician’s “Prime Directive” is to stay in office. All of their energy is focused on preserving their power. The last thing they want to do is actually govern and therefore they embrace and promote stalemate. The faceless bureaucrats don’t face the voters and continually propel the Marxist agenda. It’s no mystery why anyone with the balls to challenge that would have all the power of the current establishment arrayed against him. FJB, FBO, FHC and FMO too.
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 30, 2024 13:15:10 GMT
How does that mindset develop? The Politician’s “Prime Directive” is to stay in office. All of their energy is focused on preserving their power. The last thing they want to do is actually govern and therefore they embrace and promote stalemate. The faceless bureaucrats don’t face the voters and continually propel the Marxist agenda. It’s no mystery why anyone with the balls to challenge that would have all the power of the current establishment arrayed against him. FJB, FBO, FHC and FMO too. With no intent to demean most/many of the common bureaucrats who go about their lives trying to carve out an existence (or a micro-fiefdom) jn the overgrown wilderness of the bureaucracy ... welcome to Hell! Run for your lives! The required, Great Conflagration is(?) upon you. It may be delayed, but it cannot be stopped . The core is rotten and it is smothering new growth. Is it in danger of becoming a wasteland? Does a "free" system (as envisioned by the founders) require arson? The Deep State and its economically or ideologically vested supporters attempt to hang such people. A cornered animal (and its "isms") will seriously attempt to defend itself.
Was Thomas Jefferson right? "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". Of course Tom was a hothead.
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Post by ratty on Jul 2, 2024 0:44:14 GMT
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Post by ratty on Jul 11, 2024 22:02:30 GMT
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