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Post by missouriboy on Dec 4, 2022 0:28:14 GMT
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 4, 2022 1:32:22 GMT
Amazing how he forgot 70 years of Ukraine history.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 4, 2022 3:10:02 GMT
Amazing how he forgot 70 years of Ukraine history. I don't think he forgot it. The title limits his thesis to the period before Ukraine became a part of the USSR.
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 5, 2022 1:00:31 GMT
Amazing how he forgot 70 years of Ukraine history. I don't think he forgot it. The title limits his thesis to the period before Ukraine became a part of the USSR. Ukraine has been part of Russia for 100's of years. The 1st Capitol of Russia was Kiev.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 5, 2022 6:20:30 GMT
I don't think he forgot it. The title limits his thesis to the period before Ukraine became a part of the USSR. Ukraine has been part of Russia for 100's of years. The 1st Capitol of Russia was Kiev. Eastern Europe is a big mess ... and local populations were slaughtered and traded back and forth a lot.
There is a reason why there is a "Hun" in Hungary. And Europe won't be forgetting him. But he was really just a poor climate refugee (The Pulse of Asia - Elsworth Huntington).
The Golden Horde seems to have controlled the northern Black Sea coast from the 1200s ... and the Ottomans from the late 1400s. Every time one local power falls a new boss moves in. Greeks, Bulgars and Hungarians were ruled by the Ottomans and are not going back. Other slavs (slovenes, croats, others) move to the west and are bullied by the Serbs. Seems they'd rather die than be ruled again by serbs. Poland and the Baltic Republics have had their time as powers and as serfs of the Russians. Ditto on die rather than do that again. Ukraine is just one more of the same. Every ethnic group has its own kind of woke and its own history which they will not forget. The descendants of Turks in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia know what Greeks and Slavs would like to do to them. Went to graduate school with a Greek by the name of Nickos. Great guy unless someone mentioned Turks. "Constantinople WILL be freed." In comparison, the Missouri - Kansas Border War was just a football game. Big historical mess. Hell, the ghost of Mad King George still has wet dreams about his lost American Colonies. And WE are not going back. Although Native Americans wish we would. And quoting Mark Twain ... “There is not an acre of ground on the globe that is in possession of its rightful owner, or that has not been taken away from owner after owner, cycle after cycle, by force and bloodshed.”
Vladamir went to the Genghis Khan school of tactics, where he was a bad student.
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Post by code on Dec 5, 2022 19:35:24 GMT
Ukraine has been part of Russia for 100's of years. The 1st Capitol of Russia was Kiev. Eastern Europe is a big mess ... and local populations were slaughtered and traded back and forth a lot.
There is a reason why there is a "Hun" in Hungary. And Europe won't be forgetting him. But he was really just a poor climate refugee (The Pulse of Asia - Elsworth Huntington).
The Golden Horde seems to have controlled the northern Black Sea coast from the 1200s ... and the Ottomans from the late 1400s. Every time one local power falls a new boss moves in. Greeks, Bulgars and Hungarians were ruled by the Ottomans and are not going back. Other slavs (slovenes, croats, others) move to the west and are bullied by the Serbs. Seems they'd rather die than be ruled again by serbs. Poland and the Baltic Republics have had their time as powers and as serfs of the Russians. Ditto on die rather than do that again. Ukraine is just one more of the same. Every ethnic group has its own kind of woke and its own history which they will not forget. The descendants of Turks in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia know what Greeks and Slavs would like to do to them. Went to graduate school with a Greek by the name of Nickos. Great guy unless someone mentioned Turks. "Constantinople WILL be freed." In comparison, the Missouri - Kansas Border War was just a football game. Big historical mess. Hell, the ghost of Mad King George still has wet dreams about his lost American Colonies. And WE are not going back. Although Native Americans wish we would. And quoting Mark Twain ... “There is not an acre of ground on the globe that is in possession of its rightful owner, or that has not been taken away from owner after owner, cycle after cycle, by force and bloodshed.”
Vladamir went to the Genghis Khan school of tactics, where he was a bad student. When we bought our home, my wife and I were finding scat all over the backyard and initially thought it was a wild animal, that is until we started finding it in the branches of the shrubs in the backyard. We quickly surmised our next door neighbor was flinging his dog's waste over the fence into our yard.
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 7, 2022 1:42:35 GMT
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Post by walnut on Dec 7, 2022 3:45:36 GMT
Eastern Europe is a big mess ... and local populations were slaughtered and traded back and forth a lot.
There is a reason why there is a "Hun" in Hungary. And Europe won't be forgetting him. But he was really just a poor climate refugee (The Pulse of Asia - Elsworth Huntington).
The Golden Horde seems to have controlled the northern Black Sea coast from the 1200s ... and the Ottomans from the late 1400s. Every time one local power falls a new boss moves in. Greeks, Bulgars and Hungarians were ruled by the Ottomans and are not going back. Other slavs (slovenes, croats, others) move to the west and are bullied by the Serbs. Seems they'd rather die than be ruled again by serbs. Poland and the Baltic Republics have had their time as powers and as serfs of the Russians. Ditto on die rather than do that again. Ukraine is just one more of the same. Every ethnic group has its own kind of woke and its own history which they will not forget. The descendants of Turks in Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia know what Greeks and Slavs would like to do to them. Went to graduate school with a Greek by the name of Nickos. Great guy unless someone mentioned Turks. "Constantinople WILL be freed." In comparison, the Missouri - Kansas Border War was just a football game. Big historical mess. Hell, the ghost of Mad King George still has wet dreams about his lost American Colonies. And WE are not going back. Although Native Americans wish we would. And quoting Mark Twain ... “There is not an acre of ground on the globe that is in possession of its rightful owner, or that has not been taken away from owner after owner, cycle after cycle, by force and bloodshed.”
Vladamir went to the Genghis Khan school of tactics, where he was a bad student. When we bought our home, my wife and I were finding scat all over the backyard and initially thought it was a wild animal, that is until we started finding it in the branches of the shrubs in the backyard. We quickly surmised our next door neighbor was flinging his dog's waste over the fence into our yard. Do you think he used a trebuchet, or at least an atlatl?
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Post by ratty on Dec 7, 2022 4:50:24 GMT
[ Snip ] Do you think he used a trebuchet, or at least an atlatl? ... or a woomera?
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Post by walnut on Dec 7, 2022 4:53:55 GMT
[ Snip ] Do you think he used a trebuchet, or at least an atlatl? ... or a woomera? Patent infringement! Intellectual property theft!
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Post by ratty on Dec 7, 2022 5:03:34 GMT
Patent infringement! Intellectual property theft! No. We wuz here first (I think).
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 7, 2022 5:03:51 GMT
Patent infringement! Intellectual property theft! Well I've heard of pissing matches ... but ...
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Post by walnut on Dec 7, 2022 5:09:59 GMT
Patent infringement! Intellectual property theft! No. We wuz here first (I think). Yes, I think that they were. Very very old history there.
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Post by Sigurdur on Dec 7, 2022 12:54:38 GMT
Those pesky Norsemen got around. 😇😇
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Post by missouriboy on Dec 7, 2022 18:21:59 GMT
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