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Post by missouriboy on Jun 16, 2023 12:29:48 GMT
If told to shoot him, she would have done that too.
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 17, 2023 1:00:01 GMT
Something is not stirring the cool aid. I have watched dozens and dozens of videos on Twitter and YouTube. The Ukrainian forces interviewed are spotless clean. No dirt, no blood, shiny new equipment, clean uniforms.
Combat is not "clean".
I don't know if these videos are 100% propaganda or if the offensive has even really started yet? But it aint right
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Post by acidohm on Jun 17, 2023 20:45:16 GMT
Apologies....horrific.
The context is as to why Russia must be kicked back to its own boundaries. Verify if you wish.
If one was to wonder why Ukraine wishes to defend against Russia, or why they should be supported to do so or doubt what Russians are like, then please do offer a counter argument supported by detailed analysis.
I'm not offering this as a one off, isolated example. This is a extreme example of many stories from the past 18 months.
A guy i know at work served in the british army in Afghanistan, he dacitly described to me how he saw his mate turn to 'red mist' after stepping on a mine. Early in the Ukraine war i asked him why did russians shell towns? He said "because they're cnts"......ive not seen any evidence to suggest otherwise to be honest....
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Post by missouriboy on Jun 17, 2023 22:19:50 GMT
There are many other examples of systematic brutality in history. The following is also disgustingly graphic. One of my uncles served in the Pacific in WWII. I don't think he ever forgave the Japanese for some of the things he saw there.
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Post by acidohm on Jun 18, 2023 6:52:23 GMT
There are many other examples of systematic brutality in history. The following is also disgustingly graphic. One of my uncles served in the Pacific in WWII. I don't think he ever forgave the Japanese for some of the things he saw there.
By Mark Felton, his YouTube vids are excellent for military history. In medieval times our ancestors certainly would have been awfully barbaric, even up to more recent times. I wouldn't say our armies are perfect now, I'm sure crimes occur still. We have however made great strides towards a moral battlefield behaviour standard which separates aggression towards combatants and protection of pow/non-combatants. I'm also sure the Russians have yet to develop a moral code and indeed, similar to the Japanese in ww2, have a indoctrined superiority attitude to the Ukrainians. Ironically, that sort of attitude is more similar to Nazism which they're meant to be eradicating.
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Post by justme on Jun 18, 2023 13:53:14 GMT
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Post by justme on Jun 19, 2023 13:59:19 GMT
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Post by acidohm on Jun 20, 2023 4:23:12 GMT
Minus the 4 shot down past few days, Russia is running out of these...
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Post by acidohm on Jun 20, 2023 4:29:42 GMT
Remember when the Russians blew up "most of western supplied weapons" but it was in fact an old Soviet era rocket storage dump?
Maybe that's what this was behind Russian lines....or maybe not.
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 20, 2023 14:53:19 GMT
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Post by code on Jun 20, 2023 17:04:10 GMT
Is this real? The lack of blood and entry/exit wounds is suspect?
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Post by acidohm on Jun 20, 2023 19:52:07 GMT
[/div] Is this real? The lack of blood and entry/exit wounds is suspect?
[/quote] It's not only this video, or just Ukrainian ones. The video of Russians executing a Ukrainian had very similar lack of gore. The body just drops instantly. Not sure about the mechanics of it except the "death by gunshot volley" as shown by Holywood is overly cinematic. Once your dead, blood draining from a body unaided by a pumping heart is perhaps Limited in the timeframe of this video. Not sure what rounds are being used? Anything designed for fragmentation is going to make short work of lungs/heart when delivered to upper torso. Would also not leave exit wound. The third victim receives a head shot after he falls, mist is seen after rounds impact. The popping noise of the Ukrainian guns is very typical, apparently you can tell which side is firing where because if the sound, russian guns have more of a characteristic crack sound. The disorganised appearance of Russians into the firing line is maybe what you'd expect if poorly trained troops panic while under attack from well trained ones, regardless of nation.
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Post by Sigurdur on Jun 22, 2023 12:16:07 GMT
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Post by glennkoks on Jun 22, 2023 14:23:41 GMT
The video seems fake to me. Only one of the four Russians killed in the video even had a weapon. No way no how am I in combat in a trench without my weapon.
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Post by justme on Jun 22, 2023 17:11:13 GMT
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