WORLD WAR Z

[acidohm]

Mar 22, 2023 17:08:49 GMT blustnmtn said:

I definitely would not want to be downrange of either of those weapons under any circumstance.  I have a strict rule about foreign objects penetrating my skin no matter how old the technology that propels them. [/quote]


I agree Blu, apparently however the use of such weapons serves as evidence of something...so yeah, just providing evidence 😉

[acidohm]

Article on value of OSINT.

But there's a downside.....the west is wide open with webcams, Google maps etc. Russia/China....not so much.

[missouriboy]

Mar 22, 2023 17:53:46 GMT acidohm said:

Article on value of OSINT.

But there's a downside.....the west is wide open with webcams, Google maps etc. Russia/China....not so much.

Even before electronics and rapid movement/communications, locals had ways of monitoring "the enemy" and getting the information out.  Boston was "all eyes" when British troops went to move.  And signal lights and horses spread the word.

[justme]

Located on the campus of Stanford University and in Washington, DC, the Hoover Institution is the nation’s preeminent research......

From the Hoover Institution:

Barring a decisive offensive by either the Ukrainian or Russian side during the coming months, the war of attrition will continue. Western weapons will not give Ukraine a decisive advantage. With roughly five times Ukraine’s much-reduced population, Russia is the likely victor in a war of attrition.



The most likely outcome is a humiliating armistice. Paradoxically, that may redound to the long-term benefit of the United States. North Vietnam did the United States a favor by humiliating us before the Soviet Union did. It destroyed the limited-war illusion that possessed American military planners from the late 1950s onward. Our humiliating withdrawal from Vietnam in 1975 made possible a radical re-thinking of American military strategy, beginning under Defense Secretary Harold Brown in 1977 and continuing through the Reagan Administration. The United States undertook a revolution in defense technology that produced modern avionics and precision weapons, reversing the advantage that Russia enjoyed in conventional weapons in the early 1970s. The Russian military concluded after the 1982 Beqaa Valley air war and the initiation of the Strategic Defense Initiative that it could not keep pace technologically with America.



Utopian illusions about exporting democracy motivated America’s great blunders of the past generation, from Afghanistan and Iraq to Libya and Syria, and ultimately Ukraine. Perhaps we require another national humiliation on the scale of Vietnam to bring us back to the drive for technological superiority that ultimately won the Cold War.

www.hoover.org/research/what-americas-strategic-interest-ukraine


It's amazing the current disconnect between the western mainstream media narrative, and prestigious research institutions in the west.

[missouriboy]

Not on topic ... but you mentioned the Hoover Institute.

Two solar cycles ago Thomas Sowell published this with the Hoover Institute.

www.hoover.org/research/who-says-globe-warming

Thomas Sowell - Wikipedia
Since 1977, he has worked at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, where he is the Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow on Public Policy. Sowell was an important figure to the conservative movement during the Reagan era, influencing fellow economist Walter E. Williams and U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.

[glennkoks]

Russians are stalling as Ukraine prepares a counter offensive with the new weapons supplied from free nations all over the world.  Even Norway is sending Leopard II tanks to Ukraine to fight against the invaders.  It's good to see Europe sticking together in a common cause to contain the new Axis powers.

www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/23/russian-forces-lose-steam-as-ukraine-prepares-counteroffensive

[nonentropic]

quite ironic the Antonov was the symbol of the USSR's prowess look who has them now!

[ratty]

Mar 24, 2023 4:56:28 GMT nonentropic said:

quite ironic the Antonov was the symbol of the USSR's prowess look who has them now!

Another vodka burner ...

[Sigurdur]

C-5A used ALL of the runway at Anderson on Guam.

[justme]

Turkish media:

Russia's determination pushed western countries to this idea.

In the next period , Russia will be closed to negotiations.

Russia, which had previously tried to soften its conditions for negotiations , has now achieved its superiority both diplomatically and at the front .

Russia will return to the conditions it presented at the beginning of special military operations and will impose that it will sit at the negotiating table if these conditions are met without any softening .

Bringing the process here step by step , Russia established this superiority by wearing down the western countries and the Kiev regime .

There may be negotiation activity before the spring season .

www.dikgazete.com/yazi/rusya-nin-hamleleri-bati-yi-muzakerelere-zorlayacak-5434.html



US Secretary of State Antony Blinken made the below statement yesterday speaking with the US Senate Committee:




This is the first time I have heard The Biden Administration mention 'Ukraine may have to get some territory back through diplomacy'. 

[acidohm]

Mar 24, 2023 18:26:18 GMT justme said:

Turkish media:

Russia's determination pushed western countries to this idea.

In the next period , Russia will be closed to negotiations.

Russia, which had previously tried to soften its conditions for negotiations , has now achieved its superiority both diplomatically and at the front .

Russia will return to the conditions it presented at the beginning of special military operations and will impose that it will sit at the negotiating table if these conditions are met without any softening .

Bringing the process here step by step , Russia established this superiority by wearing down the western countries and the Kiev regime .

There may be negotiation activity before the spring season .

www.dikgazete.com/yazi/rusya-nin-hamleleri-bati-yi-muzakerelere-zorlayacak-5434.html



US Secretary of State Antony Blinken made the below statement yesterday speaking with the US Senate Committee:




This is the first time I have heard The Biden Administration mention 'Ukraine may have to get some territory back through diplomacy'. 

So Russia NOT expected to advance any more but retreat?

I thought they had a million more men, billions of arty shell's a decent army and that the Ukrainian army was in such a bad state a group of well organised aggressive Nuns would be able to walk to Kiev??

[missouriboy]

Mar 24, 2023 18:36:47 GMT acidohm said:

Mar 24, 2023 18:26:18 GMT justme said:

So Russia NOT expected to advance any more but retreat?

I thought they had a million more men, billions of arty shell's a decent army and that the Ukrainian army was in such a bad state a group of well organised aggressive Nuns would be able to walk to Kiev??

  Maybe those nuns had their Nikes commandeered by some commissars. 

[glennkoks]

One thing is for certain. With the economic situation getting worse in the West and bank turmoil all over the world you can expect more and more Euro's to start pushing for peace. They just can't live without their expresso's and caramel macchiatos.

[missouriboy]

Mar 24, 2023 20:00:43 GMT glennkoks said:

One thing is for certain. With the economic situation getting worse in the West and bank turmoil all over the world you can expect more and more Euro's to start pushing for peace. They just can't live without there expresso's and caramel macchiatos.

Ditto the Woke Brown Shirts and their handlers?  Not sure if French garbage handlers are latte sippers ... but they're not happy right now.

[nonentropic]

they are!