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Post by missouriboy on Oct 7, 2022 17:51:13 GMT
Not only do they "own it", they will attempt to muzzle you ... and come looking for you if you disagree.
Climate Scientists Want to Ban Dissenting Views
The post-climate emergency hunting should be good.
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Post by missouriboy on Oct 7, 2022 18:48:34 GMT
I have a problem with one of their charts. Specifically the N Atlantic temperature record. In charts 2 & 3 you'll note that the Central England Temperature (CET) record fits very nicely with the North Atlantic temperature record (40-65 N) from 1900 on. I compiled them from the HADSST3 gridded data sets. They show that SSts have increased over time, as has the CET. However, the NOAA ERSSTV5 data show 35-50N SSTAs declining? The paper's thesis is that N Atlantic SSTs are declining. Their 1900-2010 data showing SSTA declines. HADSST3 shows them increasing. Am I missing something? Or are they? They say ... The data is of course not 100% accurate that far back. But is proven to agree very well with modern observations, giving confidence also for the historical periods. Understandable ... but you'd think they could get the same trend direction.
The CET follows N Atlantic temps pretty closely. They don't yet show a decrease. The bottom article chart shows dramatic declines in SST temps ... with no dates I might add. If SSTs decline, the CET will likely decline too, based on past observations. But it hasn't happened yet.
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 8, 2022 3:37:55 GMT
Slightly down the same theme. Just stepped of the boat after fishing today, so the press in NZ is full of the extraordinary sea temperature around NZ never been higher and everything is dyeing in the sea, 3C above average. this is a three year narrative.
My brand new Garmin says the sea temperature temperature is 14.8C this is consistent with the last 4 weeks of fishing from old boat to new boat and two sounders.
3C anomaly would indicate that we should expect 11C or 12C as normal with the usual plus or minus 3C through wind directions etc. I have fished these waters with sounders for 40 years and never witnessed less than 14C.
Who do they think we are!
As a pointer early spring to mid spring is the low point here and elsewhere. Further we have had La Nina condition for 3 seasons these bring warm seas temperatures to the East of the North Island, this is not what we are observing this year in spite of the SOI going hard positive, Ratty's space for that.
To be honest I was stunned that the sea has been so cold for the last month and we have just had a massive cold spell, sea level snow in winter is something, last week it was over a big part of NZ and the wine and cherry crop being well in growth is in big trouble.
It was so cold that the frosts were unable to be controlled by helicopters and wind fans, it was not an inversion it was below freezing air full depth, very rare in NZ anytime other than in the alps.
Ah yes weather. and BS.
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Post by nonentropic on Oct 8, 2022 3:40:06 GMT
MB could it be lag those graphs could hid 5 years I think. Very interesting though.
The CET is adjusted but the UHI impact is moderate through luck where it has been largely sited.
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Post by duwayne on Oct 8, 2022 14:39:08 GMT
Missouri, in your search for info about the North Atlantic temperature trends, have you come across a good explanation for the cause of the historical quasi 60-year oscillation?
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Post by acidohm on Jan 15, 2023 10:49:38 GMT
There's a head of a nail out there, this guy hit it hard.
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Post by Sigurdur on Jan 15, 2023 18:25:50 GMT
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Post by code on Jan 15, 2023 20:33:12 GMT
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Post by code on Jan 15, 2023 20:38:33 GMT
There's a head of a nail out there, this guy hit it hard. LOVE it!! Thanks Acid
Just the last few minutes of this video speak of wokeness as a religion. I've cued the video to start right where the point is made.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 18, 2023 1:15:56 GMT
No catastrophic effects evidenced in precipitation trends on the Central and Northern Great Plains. Both Columbia, MO and Grand Forks, ND have summer drought periods during transitions from low solar cycles to large cycles (16-17 and 20-21). Grand Forks had large summer spikes during large solar cycles SC17-18 and SC22-23.
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Post by Sigurdur on Jan 18, 2023 13:24:03 GMT
It is well known by some folks that solar cycles and precipitation are clearly inter-related.
Then we have AGW scientists who are clueless.
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Post by missouriboy on Jan 18, 2023 18:08:23 GMT
It is well known by some folks that solar cycles and precipitation are clearly inter-related. Then we have AGW scientists who are clueless. There none so blind as those who refuse to see. Weaker cycles seem to deliver weaker monsoonal flow into the Northern Plains ... particularly in La Nina periods. So far, y'all seem to be holding in/up there. From 1900 to 1940 not so much. I'm sure it is more complex than that. |
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